[Updated] Glenn Nye Announces Carrier Move Delayed Until 2019…Or Is it?
By D.J. Spiker | Wednesday, April 21st, 2010 | Politics[Update: April 22, 2010] The Florida Congressional delegation is calling foul, and repudiating Nye. The following was issued:
CRENSHAW: “NOTHING HAS CHANGED”ON HOMEPORTING NUCLEAR AIRCRAFT CARRIER AT NAVAL STATION MAYPORT
WASHINGTON, DC – Congressman Ander Crenshaw today (4/22) issued the following statement regarding homeporting a nuclear aircraft carrier at Naval Station Mayport:
“Congressman Nye was swept into office with President Obama. Now in the political fight of his life, he is saying whatever he thinks will get him more votes, whether it’s grounded in fantasy or reality. He’s is scrambling the dates to try and achieve his own political goals.
“A high-ranking Navy official told me this morning that the schedule to homeport a nuclear aircraft at Naval Station Mayport remains the same as it did a year and a half ago when the final Record of Decision was signed. Nothing has changed.
“The Navy presented Congressman Nye with the same information that has been provided to everyone else. There is nothing new here.
“A 2019 homeport date is a worst case scenario and would only occur if each and every step of the process took the longest amount of time possible. Frankly, the Navy would do it faster if there were more money. We know that homeporting a carrier at Mayport remains a top priority for the Navy and is in the best strategic interest of our nation.
“The dredging and pier improvements now underway underscore that bringing a carrier on the First Coast is not a plan on paper. It’s a reality that will happen sooner rather than later.”
Is Glenn Nye just trying to score political points? A source in Washington has talked to numerous individuals on the Florida delegation, including Senator Bill Nelson, who emphasizes that an adjusted timetable has not been discussed and as of right now nothing has changed.
The Virginian-Pilot is reporting tonight that Glenn Nye has been notified by Naval leaders that a move of a carrier from Norfolk Naval Base to Mayport, Florida will be delayed by 5 years, from 2014 to 2019. The additional timeline will give the Hampton Roads and Virgina Congressional delegations additional time to hammer their argument against the proposed, unfunded move and new life at getting the plan reversed or de-funded.
Combine Nye’s ‘No’ on health care and cap-and-trade as well as this (you know he’ll be taking credit), and whoever the Republican nominee turns out to be is gonna find out the path to victory just got a whole lot more steep.
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48 Responses to "[Updated] Glenn Nye Announces Carrier Move Delayed Until 2019…Or Is it?"
I do not think Congressman DINO will be as strong as you believe.
2nd district will be a DINO vs RINO contest. It may be the most boring race in the country. All of the voters should be sound asleep by November.
I still think RINO will win with 60% of the vote because DINO has a big monkey on his back called the democratic party. Support from Pelosi is not good for reelection.
Nye visited Mayport and issued the following press release:
http://nye.house.gov/index.cfm?sectionid=24&itemid=393
He went on to say:
James – Nye’s going to be tough to beat.
Why would voters assume that Nye had anything to do with the Navy’s decision. Did the Navy say he did? Besides, the Navy could change their mind tomorrow. This “Navy leaders say” stuff is boloney. A new CNO, a new Atlantic fleet admiral, these guys change their minds as often as JR changes the homepage at BD.
Putting down my partisan hat, thank goodness Congressman Nye has put our interests first and has diligently and smartly pursed answers to the questions he and the members of his military affairs commission have posed, and for which no satisfactory answers have been provided. Perhaps in a perfect world, dispersal would be a goal; but today, cost and benefit are more important strategic objectives, and we and Nye deserve to know the actual cost of this duplication of service and the effect on the Navy’s shipbuilding program. The is one small victory for Hampton Roads in the long term battle waged by Florida to get military assets away from Hampton Roads. Thanks and Kudos to Nye and the members of his military affairs commission.
Mike, there is no evidence that Nye had anything to do with this. If you think Navy leadership give a rat’s ass about a freshman member of the House you’re crazy. This is like a rooster taking credit for the sunrise.
Regretfully, there will be those who see only politics in this endeavor to retain the nuclear carriers in Norfolk. But that ignores the fact that all our Congressman in Hampton Roads, that is, Congressman Nye, Forbes, Wittman, and Scott serve on the Military Affairs Commission, and so do representatives of Senators Warner and Webb.
In Hampton Roads, this issue is bipartisan as none of our political representatives can support the waste to taxpayer resources that would be required to duplicate nuclear facilities in Florida when they are available in Norfolk. We are united in this effort as the the Governor and the Legislature, HRMFFA, our cities and counties, the business community, the retired military community, and economic development entities are working to enhance our competitiveness for military and federal facilities programs and services.
So Ron, while you attempt to denigrate Congressman Nye, he deserves much praise and recognition for his efforts to spearhead this united effort. I’m sure if it had been Thelma Drake, you would be singing her praises, as you should.
Uh oh, Mike. Better re-read Rep. Crenshaw’s remarks. This may be much ado about nothing, in which case it sure would be awefully embarrassing to Rep. Nye AND YOU! That would break my heart. You see, Thelma wouldn’t make such an announcement unless she knew what the hell she was talking about. Like I said above, Nye hasn’t done anything to take credit for. Where’s the proof?
Ron, the effort by all our Congressman and Senators, our Governor, loal Mayors and Chairs, regional and business groups, and most citizens, to retain military assets in Hamnpton Roads and Virginia is a refreshing change from the hyper partisanship that has marred some of our past efforts. I sincerely regret you are not on the team.
There is politics in the carrier issue – local politics. What really matters is whether or not there is a good strategic reason to have carriers in another port on the east coast and whether we can afford it now. Jobs for Hampton Roads is of lesser importance. I would have more respect for a politician who presents it that way.
Mike, what don’t you get about this? Nye lied or doesn’t know what the Navy told him. He is ineffective and way out of his league. I didn’t see a statement from Randy Forbes or Bobby Scott that claims that the carrier move was delayed to 2019. Nye is full of crap and Ander Crenshaw called him out on it. I sincerely regret that you are a Democratic homer who is oblivious to the fact that Nye doesn’t know what he’s talking about. To wrap Nye is swaddling clothes of bi-partisanship and “we’re all one big happy family” or to claim that past efforts were hyperpartisan is BS too. Thelma Drake worked very well with Meyera Oberndorf and Governor Warner on the BRAC issue in 2005. You keep lying and I’ll keep calling you out on it.
I agree with Jim and DJ that Nye’s going to be tough to beat in November. He’s tweaked both the far left (for not voting a straight liberal agenda) and the far right (for having a “D” after his name) but there are a bunch of us in the middle, far outweighing those on either end. Short of something dramatic like switching parties, shoring up the radical centrists, and ignoring both the far left and far right, may be Nye’s best chance at re-election.
Once again, I note that there are moderate, business oriented republicans who are working on Nye’s Commission, and who would work on the Commission if Congressman Forbes were the Chairman. Point is, most of the posters herein are at the far right, extreme end of the political spectrum, for whom working on important local issues in a bipartisan manner is anathema to their concept of what it means to be a republican. In fact, I work every day with leaders in the business community who lay aside their partisan hat in dealing with the complex problems in our community,our region, and our Commonwealth. Ron, I regret that by your post, you reveal the intense partisanship that precludes effective progress on a range of issues and I truly hope your view is refuted at the polls.
When I have a bit of free time at work, I try to talk to people. Just plain normal people(voters).
Lately I have been asking “what do you think of the VAT tax the democrats want to impose on us after the elections?”
No one knows what a VAT tax so I explain it to them.
Talk about enraged people!
The number issue is money or more exactly their lack of it.
The last thing they want is the government stealing more money from them in higher taxes.
If you do not believe me, try asking people about the VAT tax and see what happens.
If republican candidates run against unpopular democratic policies, they should do very well.
From Mike – “there are moderate, business oriented republicans who are working on Nye’s Commission.” This is is IRRELEVANT. My point is that Nye is making stuff up and you want to change the subject. I don’t care if there are 100 Republicans on Nye’s little group. It appears that the Navy is not backing up Nye’s throry that the carrier move is moved back to 2019. No Navy leader has said this on the record despite repeated requests from journalists to get them to state the carrier move is moved from 2014 to 2019. Even Mark warner says no one told him the carrier move is delayed. You can carry water for Nye all you want, but there is no evidence from the Navy to support his claim.
Thanks Ron for proving my point that you and many on this forum regretfully put partisanship in front of effective representation. The fact is, the large majority of the citizens and voters in this district want our local, state, and federal representatives to work together to retain the military and federal facilities in our region and in our Commonwealth. Governor McDonnell shares this goal as well. Now by your inane criticism you imply that to pass the litmus test of effective representation, to take any credit for action, this action must be proved to be solely caused by the representative him or her self. Of course, given the nature of politics, that is impossible. But keep digging Ron, you are just going farther down the rat hole of extreme partisanship as others celebrate a small victory in a long and arduous campaign to retain the carrier in Hampton Roads.
kingsmoothie- AMEN. National security first.
Mike, Nye claims that the Navy has delayed the carrier move to 2019. Do you have any proof that this is true? As a member of Nye’s commission I suspect it would take you only moments to call Nye’s office and ask him to send it to you. The you could be a hero and provide it to us. Without such evidence you prove my point that Nye is making this up to save his skin. Nye is the one who has interjected politics into what should be a community rallying point – not me. Where is the proof???
What a shame Ron that your partisan rhetoric shows your true intent. The Congressman has no need to “save his skin.” He is our Congressman, just as Randy Forbes is our Congressman as well, and they often inform us of the results of their discussions with federal officials. Your attempts to turn a news release into an inquisition is deplorable, and indicative of the hyper partisanship which grips the right wing of the Party.
Anyone who has ever dealt with the federal bureaucracy knows that there are multiple levels of meaning to any comment or decision, and most bureaucracies maintain plausible deniability in order to protect themselves from the changing winds and tide of the political system. You choose to take the word of a Florida Congressman as gospel, and won’t believe the word of a Virginia Congressman. I believe Nye. MJB sends!
So Ron, according to you, the Florida-Times Union, Virginia Pilot, Associated Press, Senator Webb’s office, Congressman Nye’s office and the United States Navy are all lying?
And only you and Congressman Crenshaw’s “Best case scenario” knows the truth?
In the VP Bartel quote: “Congress agreed last year to spend almost $76 million for dredging and wharf repairs at Mayport in preparations for a new carrier.” and “Military leaders said the defense budget proposal being debated this year also includes $2 million for planning the Mayport move.” means that a decision was made, it was funded, is being contracted, and the good folks in the Government are moving ahead quickly to make it happen.
The money allocated by Congress last year is already in the contract acquisition process to start modifying the facilities at Mayport. In doing some homework, there is a solicitation on Fedbizops for “Wharf Charlie Improvements” (https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&tab=core&id=c6f1d136fed82f31e769ce20f4d7657f&_cview=1) at the Mayport Naval Station which is where they will stash the carrier after it moves from Norfolk. This is a “Two Phase” solicitation and Phase I contains this sentence: “The total estimated price range for this project is between $20,000,000 to $30,000,000 with a total design and construction schedule of 730 calendar days after contract award.” The proposal for this contract was due on 6 April 2010 with an expected award shortly after. The Phase II solicitation is being prepared, and after it is published, will also probably be fast tracked through acquisition and contract award.
The Mayport Carrier Basin dredging contract (https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&tab=core&id=50f28241efd7f6ed835be8a4cde114dc&_cview=1 ) was awarded on 8 December 2009 to the Norfolk Dredging Company in Chesapeake. This is a base contract with options. What is notable in this contract is that the work seems to be focused on “dredging approximately 725 thousand cubic yards of material from the Entrance Channel, Turning Basin, Carrier Basin, and Pier C-2″ which are directly related to moving the carrier into the new “Wharf C” facilities.
With dredging contracts already awarded and the Wharf C improvements pending award, there seems to be a rush to get the Mayport facilities up and running quickly. Pawing through the publically available details of these contracts which relate directly to the Norfolk-Mayport carrier move and their completion dates provides the best insight of when contractors have to be completed with their work. At this time, unless something changes and outside of all the political BS and whatever the press is spinning, it looks more like 4-5 years rather than 9 years.
We won’t be losing only one carrier, it will end up being two carriers since the Enterprise is going to be decommissioned in 2013. So if you multiply Bartel’s reported $425 M/year economic impact and 6,000 jobs times two and the fact that money is already being spent to prepare Mayport, the economic impacts to Hampton Roads, and especially the Second District will be severe, no matter who wins the election and what the press says about it.
Tim J, that is a great piece.. this is one more reason to put all biases aside and think honestly consider who is best prepared of all of the candidates.. Pardon my plugging for Kenny but who else knows the issues better and who else has successfully battled congress, and won, on these types of issues?
Yes, thanks Tim J. Your post confirms what many suspect. The announcement is 99% political and reality lies in review of information and activity at the staff and contract levels.
Turbo, I concur. Kenny Golden and General Mizuaswa are clearly the two most qualified and prepared candidates (backgrounds, experience, and military status) to do battle on behalf of Hampton Roads on this issue.
+1 Jay D..
Of the republican plantation candidates, reliable conservatives Bert and Ed are more operationally qualified than rino Rigell by a landslide. Political party affiliation aside, Kenny has orders of magnitude more experience than Ed, Bert or any of the less experienced candidates whom I harbor no disrespect for regardless of party affiliation. They are all at a disadvantage when it comes to influential endorsements or past campaign donations that amount to bought political favors (from republican or socialist democrat alike in Rigell’s case). Put the Real World resumes of each candidate in front of you without bias or the influence of money and every candidate has accomplishments that bode well for a congressman. Experience garnered after 30+ years of ACTIVE duty should make the other candidates blush but the party faithful feeding from the $ame koolaid trough are in complete denial of the fact$. Va-02 is very different though..
This region is a massive military industrial complex, not some hodgepodge of bedroom communities in the heartland. What the Golden campaign witnessed prior to Kenny deciding to run as an independent was a coordinated vagop partywide compromise of ethics.. a complete disregard for principles in defense of party favoritism and blind loyalty and that is exactly what the Va gop has so unquestionably proven they desire by preordaining a fearless leader who cut his teeth as a car salesman? What say you John or Jane Q public?
Mizuaswa, Maulback, Taylor, Sandlin, Rigell and Nye have never served aboard, deployed with and were attached to Carrier Battle Group nor have they flown combat missions against America’s enemies from a carrier. Setting the campaign shenanigans aside, Loyola and Kenny seem to be the only candidates who can relate to and provide some common ground and context for those men, women and their families of voters who are currently, and have been previously deployed on Aircraft Carriers.
Typo.. end of last paragraph should read: ‘Va-02 is a very different trough.’
Kenny spoke at a relevant Eastern Shore event on the OP regarding having prior nsc and global exposure in theater.. something grossly lacking among congressional members.
So Tim, has Nye, Drake, Pickett, Whitehurst and Hardy all insufficiently served the second district because they didn’t serve on a aircraft carrier?
Question: This thread is about Aircraft Carriers. My comments are about future basing of Carriers and evidence of political and media spin, not opinions about ancient history of some old political fossils and a current office holder and their public service. Your question is irrelevant.
Turbo, I say – in many of your points, you nailed it and Golden summed it up succinctly on the video link, “I know where the money is, I know where the good guys are, I know where the bad guys are…”
On this issue, Golden’s 4 years of legislative experience and Mizuaswa’s work as Senior Executive in the Pentagon plus added years serving on the Professional Staff of the U.S. Senate Armed Services Committee, convey a level of expertise (and relationships in place) absent from other candidate resumes.
I disagree with Tim J that carrier experience is the salient point. In my view, it’s the combination of military + legislative experience that better qualify and prepare Mizusawa and Golden to advocate on all regional military related issues. As you already noted, our region’s primary economic engine IS the military complex. Consequently, I do find it bizarre many disregard the relevance of a military/legislative career in a contest to represent a region that includes all service branches plus NASA and significant shipyard facilities?
At the risk of turning this discussion into another candidate war (sorry JR!), it is related to topic to ask, Why does the RPVB choice have zero experience in the ‘industry’ that is THE lifeblood of our entire region?
Again, my comment about Kenny and Loyola was relative to a block of folks in the District who have served on Carriers only, not Destroyers, Submarines, Cruisers, Tugboats, Coast guard vessels, Army, Air Force, Special Forces, NASA Astronauts, politicians,with legislative experience and other hyperbole you’ve interpreted into the comment.
So I guess this means you’re not going to answer the Question, Tim?
Maybe you can’t read, didn’t read, or are trying to hijack this thread, so back to my previous response… this isn’t Archaeology 101 and your question is irrelevant.
To The Question – You write:
So Ron, according to you, the Florida-Times Union, Virginia Pilot, Associated Press, Senator Webb’s office, Congressman Nye’s office and the United States Navy are all lying?
And only you and Congressman Crenshaw’s “Best case scenario” knows the truth?
Answer: YES. The Navy has not said this on the record to anyone. The press/media you cite are only repeating what Nye said – they are not claiming that he is factually accruate. Until the Navy comes out and says on the record that the carrier is not moving until 2019 then I don’t believe Nye. Why should we? The Navy is the decision maker – not Glenn Nye. The Navy hasn’t said anything. Why do you believe Nye?
Tim, why do you have to be insulting? If you didn’t want to answer the Question, couldn’t you just have said no?
Ron, if you don’t want to believe Nye, would you believe The Navy? Does this work?
http://www.navytimes.com/news/2010/04/navy_mayport_042610w/
Insulting? Gee, I have been called that before, along with lots of other names, but I recognize a ” baiting” diversion when I see it. We happen to be dealing with Carrier basing which may be a defining issue in this campaign, an issue which Nye is trying to co-opt with smoke and mirrors since he has lost the argument of keeping a carrier in Hampton Roads.
Nye coming out with statements which aren’t long on facts with some additional spin from Sen. Webb’s office means that Carrier basing is a weak spot in their 2nd district campaign portfolio. The contracts I cited above have due dates which are consistent with Rep. Crenshaw’s response and the Navy Times article as quoted: “The Navy is committed to using Mayport as a second nuclear carrier homeport,” service spokesman Lt. Paul Macapagal said. “But that will not happen before the completion of required military construction projects there.” The contracts for dredging with options and the Phase I and II “wharf improvements” have due dates around 2015 so does that constitute ” … completion of required military construction projects there.”?
Since we have the unique opportunity of having candidates in this campaign who have lived on and have flown off of Carriers, their experience, credibility and perspective on this issue, whether they are the chosen candidate or not, provides a unique opportunity to take ownership of this issue from the Democrats.
By the nature of your response, is “The Question” a pseudonym for a candidate since by your question you apparently want to level candidates who don’t have active duty Carrier service in their resumes with those who do? If it is a pseudonym, then say so and promise I won’t be insulting or worse, a meany.
I attended tonights ‘The Republican Professionals Network’s
Special Energy Briefing & Dinner Meeting with: Senator Frank Wagner’. After Frank finished his informative briefing he took questions from the floor like any experienced politician should be able to and he did a fine job.. this guy is doing a decent job of representing us and is fit for the job.. After the colorful comments Frank left to attend other events.. Then the festivities began. Go pour yourself a glass of vino. This will go down well with GrGich Hills 2005 Chardonnay Carneros Selection.
When Ed Maulbeck took the podium with a prepared statement and proceeded to share his direct assesment of the state of the primary in technicolor, the tone of the event went full throttle and shifted into overdrive.. sip some vino, keep cool…. Under pressure, Taylor, Maulbeck and Rigell’s true colors shined. Every eyeball and earlobe in the place knew they were about to witness something unexpected and frankly unbecoming for any republican congressional candidate. It was surreal yet telling to witness the events that followed. The leader and likely winner of this primary was called out on his donation to Obama along with other left wing non conservative causes and the pressure he was under to take a stand and defend himself regrettfully demonstrated what is lacking in this primary and for that matter, many Republican Congressmen.. Unwavering Conservative principles and conduct unencumbered by the influence of financial support seemingly intended to win over a socialist political candidates voter base. Scott to his credit initially demonstrated professionalism and courage by standing up and fighting back honorably, with words, while remaining cool under pressure but it did not take long to see what this nice guy does not have which is the fire in his belly that we need our candidate to possess in order to take on elected thug leftists who have taken so much from this great country.
It became a little clearer tonight just how seriously the party needs a seasoned mature leader, a senior, an adult if you will, like Kenny Golden. After listening to each of the candidates, how much more of this circus can anyone take?
How can anyone with a brain honestly expect any one of the candidates to stand up to the left of liberal socialist thugs in Congress? No disrespect to any of the candidates on a personal level but I saw a weak side of party anointee/leader Scott Rigell tonight that was so disappointing that I am at a loss for words.
The nightmare continues.. Nye will cruise right back into office this november and the republican party will not defeat him with any of the current republican candidates I witnessed this evening. One of the more mature members in the room became furious, got up and left in disgust.. I felt his pain.
Back to the OP, we can kiss a couple of carriers goodbye because Nye will clobber these guys locally and buckle under dem party bullying.. The ONLY concievable way Nye will lose a debate let alone an election is if the va-2 gop reinstates AND endorses Kenny Golden. Did anyone else witness the monday night episode?
Off to pray.. and drink..
“turbo”, in the “One of the more mature members in the room became furious, got up and left in disgust” was that in response to the attacks or the “weak” responses to the attacks?
Jessica, Smoothie, National Security has nothing to do with this move. Anyone who believes that needs to look at the history of Mayport and know this is about money. Think about the last time you saw 3 carriers as you crossed the HRBT. $1.16 Mil per day and the next BRAC is all this is about. Florida has a real concern that the loss of several Frigates due to retirement and LCS basing at JEB Little Creek could doom Mayport. This would be a disaster for the Navy and for our country as well. The money should be spent to have our CVNs work out of NS Mayport but not be permanently based there. Our delegation needs to work with the Florida delegation to make all this a reality.
On the Congressman Nye situation, Glenn has nothing to do with the delay, it’s money again and money will put it back on. A good solid argument and the identification of the 67 items that must be completed to the tune of about $1.1 Bil will turn the tide and I’m afraid Glenn cannot lead that charge.
On credibility, yes serving on the CVN (actually driving one of the beast) gives you a special perspective that is helpful in carrying the argument forward but having an indepth knowledge of shipboard maintenance and being involved in the Congressional battle over refueling the USS ENTERPRISE at the Pentagon is much more helpful. I happened to be there when Sen. Ted Kennedy tried to cancel that unique refueling. We are in tough place now sending two carriers out for 8 month deployments but if we didn’t have Big E coming back out again next year we would be in worse shape. I look forward to carrying this issue forward into the Congressional campaign and then into Congress in 2011. r Kenny
You expect Rigell to leap to his feet and give a Give me Liberty or Give me death speech to — a RPN meeting. Every person there already knows how they are voting. Rigell getting up and raising his voice or whatever does nothing to help himself win. Rigell has plenty of passion for the fall campaign. Underestimate if you’d like, but in 9 months you’ll be calling him Congressman Rigell.
Ron, I respect fiscally conservative candidates who put people before party, advocate limiting the size, cost and influence of government, give their word to advocate responsible measures in defense of life beginning at conception, defend the constitution, fight for the restoration of free market principles.. putting people before party should not take back seat to any of the above, it should be riding shotgun.
Just my 0.02 dinars
During the “shootout”, where were Sandlin and Loyola besides dodging bullets flying between Maulback, Rigell and Taylor?
Tim, did you see Kenny Golden answer the question? How hard was that?
Tim J, This may have been the only live heated debate I ever want to see among republican candidates at a republican professionals or any other networking function geared towards interfacing politicians with the business community. Although I can appreciate the passion in the exchange expressed by the 3 candidates, this type of exchange is not going to put any conservative on the path to defeat the dems golden boy Nye if it does not take place in at least a neutral moderated atmosphere. Ed made some tough accusations and both Scott’s challeneged each other to a face to face live debate unless I missed something..
IMO, VA-02 lacks any viable republican candidate who can go face to face live in real time with Nye.. Sad isn’t it.. I digress.
Question: Kenny’s much smarter than I am.
Answer: None of the candidates can use Kenny’s maturity and experience against him.
“turbo”, “Question” wasn’t a question, it was my answer to “The Question” who is playing games.
Tim J, I thought The Question had a good answer.. just saying. When a real debate ensues and the prime economic force of this region is the topic, Kenny shines because he speaks with authority from experience.. no arm twisting, no coercion.. no BS.
ID the candidates with proven leadership skills involving in depth military business transactions and the target narrows real fast.
Check Roger That.. zero mils.
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