Radtke wins third straight BD poll
By JR Hoeft | Wednesday, November 23rd, 2011 | Politics
Jamie Radtke, candidate for the Republican nomination for U.S. Senate, has won her third straight Bearing Drift readers poll. While the poll is not scientific, it does gauge the popularity of a candidate and their ability to turn out voters online.
The latest poll did not include George Allen, but two previous versions did. In those previous polls, Radtke still managed to best him.
In this latest poll Radtke more than doubled her closest competitor, Earl Jackson, with 298 to 148 votes. Tim Donner garnered 120 votes.
Jackson’s polling numbers on BD have been steadily increasing. From 7 votes in March to 148 today. Donner’s votes declined precipitously to less than half of what he received in the last poll.
Radtke faces an uphill battle in the amount of Republicans who have endorsed Allen, his fundraising, and his actual polling numbers. But, one thing is for certain, Bearing Drift readers love her. And it looks like they are warming up to Jackson too.
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37 Responses to "Radtke wins third straight BD poll"
I was really put out with the AP decision to have a pre-primary debate with the candidates they crowned as the primary winners. I know groups try to restrict candidates because of money raised or how they do in early polls. But to disregard what the voters want in the primary , in my opinion, has taken it to far.
That said I am glad Allen agreed to do the three primary debates. I hate it when you see campaigns and candidates try not to debate. I think that says a lot for a Allen who I am sure many of his brain trust would tell him not to debate for the primary.
I think all candidates should be heard then the voters can decide for themselves. Not have their decision made by some organization. I am glad BD has been doing polling thanks for that.
This BD poll was posed as who should best oppose Allen, and “none of the above” was not an option. Hence I did not participate in the poll. Why don’t you try it again including George Allen and ask a straighforward question, and see what the numbers tell you. Otherwise, this is as meaningless as yesterday morning’s toilet paper.
But craig, you see the evidence above you! If Allen was in the poll, he would have been beaten…..again…….by Jamie Radtke.
The Allen camp could have easily voted for Donner or Jackson (and I am darn certain some did) and at least caused Radtke to finally lose one.
But no. You couldn’t motivate your voters to do even that.
What should bother you most is if you add up jackson plus Donner, plus McCormick, Radtke would still win, though barely.
Again the crying over Radtke winning her third straight BD poll. Why? It is an unscientific poll. Your guy gets stomped in the past 2 unscientific poll where he does get included.
So be it. Radtke won’t be a factor right? Allen will win automatically right? All those Tea Partiers on George Allen’s website were legit right? George Allen as senator really did act as a conservative before he was voted out of office right?
Stop worrying about Jamie Radtke. Stop complaining. You got this one in the bag. Right? Right?
As they say, figures don’t lie, but liars figure. Taking a look at the numbers given to us above from the BD poll: in October Radtke got 476 votes when the question included all candidates. In this latest November poll not including Allen, Radtke got only 298 votes. A 37.39% free fall. Great show!
“Britt Howard November 23, 2011 19:29 pm
But craig, you see the evidence above you! If Allen was in the poll, he would have been beaten…..again…….by Jamie Radtke.”
First, he wasn’t in the poll. Second, I’m from Missouri, so show me. Take a poll that includes Allen and then I can vote on this. Pretty simple posit.
Kilby
Pardon moi. I am _from_ Missouri and this much is true. But I now live and vote and Virginia and have for some many years.
Well at least Radtke can win something. Hopefully this makes her feel better about the beat down that is coming next spring. Hope she gets all of her 400 voters out to the polls to help soften the loss.
Funny how in those past 2 polls George Allen gets beat and Jamie Radtke tops out over 400 votes. How come the Allen team only motivated 249?
How come the George Allen camp couldn’t get the numbers and add to another challenger to make sure Jamie Radtke lost?
Lots of posts in a row, Craig. Why is that? Spin spin! You guys should be embarrassed.
@Britt, You’re right. Let’s have a new poll where BD members can have a vote now that we are taking this seriously.
Not a bad move on your part Craig. At the end of the day, if you lose you can still say it is an unscientific poll.
Getting even 249 votes here for Allen, previously actually is serious numbers for a blog. The difference is I never discounted the threat. What is truly strange is watching the you guys get your butts handed to you here by somebody you totally dismiss and you spin and totally bs the obvious truth. You deny what is right in front of your face. Putting up fake unvetted Tea Party endorsements is alsodamaging to you. it makes me wonder why the Allen camp would resort to such things. It causes one to question all the Allen claims. Like we question his conservatism given his unconservative record.
What? Just because he’s George Allen, he can do anything and still get elected? How many examples of THAT do we have to see everyday.
At least now, you’re talking reality about what is happening here. If you really have the numbers to win, then do yourselves a favor and don’t even bother to spin on a blog poll or put up “endorsements” that can’t stand up to the light of scrutiny. You guys should have realized that after the Radtke response to the Red State allegation of drunkeness. You will be called on your bs and it will damage your campaign and candidate. It is that simple.
Old fart political rules of thumb are changing. Their good ole buddy Old fart media also knew that Allen and Kaine would raise enough money to buy ads and they know this primary will be profitable if waged the old fart way. Money used to be everything if you wanted to change voters minds through television ads and mailers but the under 40 generation is a new game changer. I am sure Allen staff are smarter than this latest move but it remains to be seen how this will impact his poll results regardless of whether the relase was full of lies or not.
I don’t understand why people keep talking about George Allen on this TEA party blog.
J/k
Lol, good one, Temporary.
@Temporary and @ Britt. Why do we talk about George Allen on this Tea Party blog? Well, for one (1) It is not supposed to be a Tea Party blog, it supposed to be–or so I thought–A Republican Party blog (2) it put up a poll about who would best defeat George Allen in a primary but didn’t even offer George Allen as a candidate and (3) used to) have a George Allen ad here to keep this place running. So yeah, I think it’s game for discussion.
I do not work for George Allen or any other political campaign or political action committee. My vote and opinion is only my own. I assume even in this day and age I am allowed to have one vote and one opinion, freely expressed here for the benefit of all.
As long as there is breath in my body, I will express my opinions freely and openly.
BD is a Republican Party blog?
Ya’ll can talk all day about how great it is to beat Allen on a blog poll but it really doesn’t matter. Until one of the other candidates actually decides to run a competitive campaign I don’t think the Allen camp gives a flip. Actually I take these poll loses as a sign that the Allen campaign is not focused at all on the others in the primary and instead is looking forward to the general election.
I will give you an example of how well run the Radtke campaign is. I live in a small town and Radtke actually stopped in to do a meet and greet. I learned of this at a republican committee meeting when someone asked why we were not informed about it. Evidently she came in her bus to town without informing the local republican party or the local tea party. They said she had exactly two people at her meeting and after talking with them she wondered the streets a while. In comparison the last time Allen was in town we had around 200 show up to hear him speak. My point is that if Radtke plans on being competitive she needs name recognition and so far she hasn’t been gaining in that department.
Still head-scratching on Radtke campaign’s strategy to win, esp. in the general. Primary strategy seems focused on collecting the ABAllen voters and out-conservative’ng George Allen. If she wins primary, how does Jaime attract the moderate voting block needed to beat Kaine? (Serious question – I’m not in the Allen camp.)
tom, I also saw the Radtke bus riding thru my small rural town. None of my conservative or Republican friends/acquaintances met her when she stopped here. No one knew she was here.
if she thinks she can beat Allen in the primary & Tim Kaine/OFA/Obama in the general, she needs to get an advance team.
Temp.. This is a Conservative blog moreso than republican, tea or anything else.. JR, correct me if I have led anyone astray.
I applaud JR and the writers for hosting this discussion which hopefully advances the conservative cause in Virginia AND results in Kaine wasting a lot of donor money.
Job #1, Kaine loses.
Bearing Drift is a conservative blog. It is “Virginia’s Conservative Voice” – meaning, it is your voice: the readers.
We our focused on providing information as best we can on items that, hopefully, matter to the Virginia conservative – regardless of party affiliation.
Our individual contributors write posts based on their personal views and not necessarily that of the entire group. Therefore, you will get disagreements even among contributors about the nature of a topic.
When there is a post that is authored by BD, which is typically our endorsements, that is coming from Bearing Drift’s editorial board: Norm Leahy, Shaun Kenney, Brian Schoeneman, Scott Lee, and myself.
You at least have a strong majority in the editorial board with Brian, Shaun and yourself.
Big thumbs down on including Norm, who seems to be nothing more then a Rush Limbaugh aspirant. Personally I am not familiar with Scott.
You still have a good majority though.
Puts her right up there with Ron Paul in having shown an astonishing ability to win online polls, straw polls, mock elections…everything but an election that counts.
OK. It’s just a “conwervative” blog for self-appointed “conservative” voices (i.e. Ratkee). Now I know. My favorite contributor remains Tom Novemeber. Keep it coming! — Kilby, the unabashed but mouthy Republican in this realm.
Jamie Radtke wins yet another unscientific poll. Call me when she breaks through 9% in a real poll. Or, when she actually has paid all her campaign debts and still has cash on hand.
Rocky…uh, that would be when pigs fly and in world where carpenters get rssurected. Until then, we slog on.
Self-appointed, Craig, eh? I’ll put our experience up against anyone: you have Republican state central committee members, former delegates, folks who have run for public office, folks who have run conservative organizations, folks who run campaigns, folks who have been legislative aids….If you think we’re so unworthy, why do you bother reading us?
Oh, that’s right, because we give you a forum.
We’ve done only one thing – attempt to be fair.
One day we’re accused of bias towards one candidate. Another of bias towards another. Tomorrow, it’ll be someone else.
And you know what, we’ll keep doing what we’re doing because at the end of the day, we know folks read us and appreciate it.
Just a simple “thank you” would suffice. Because you know what, “You want us on this wall, you need us on this wall!”
PS Who the hell is Tom November?
“it does gauge the popularity of a candidate”
Hahaha, really?
The election will determine who wins and the Radtke people will finally let up, unless she runs as an independent. If she does she’ll probably get as many votes in the election as she did in the BD poll, I mean online wing nut popularity contest.
JR,I still think one of the “best of” comments for 2011 is where Rocky accused you of conducting BD under “Sharia Law”. Are you going to publish a “best of” list this year?
I’ve expressed my opinion of Radtke before (State Senator fine – US Senator silly) so I won’t revisit the poll results directly. However, the enthusiasm gap for the establishment Repubs (nationwide) is quite obvious. The fervor for the Ron Pauls and the ABR of the month speaks to that. The Dems manufacture their enthusiasm by paying people and getting the media to put a shiny gloss on it. The Occupy folks are paid by Acorn, SEIU, leftist 501c3s and the DNC. The mobs invading Wisconsin, Ohio etc are similarly paid and have been more successful than not. While not advocating the RNC to do likewise I would urge the Repubs to think about this issue carefully before Oct 2012 and figure out the remedy.
Tim J – hmm…that’s a lot of work. We’d have a tough time just going through the hundreds of posts this year, and you’re asking us the sift through thousands of comments? Yikes.
Maybe. I’ll bring it up to the group to see what we should do for an end-of-year wrap-up…it’s getting to be that time. Thanks for the reminder!
Timmy,
Gosh. Darn. It.
Thank. You. Former. State. Representative. Missouri. Now. Votes. In. Virgina. You. are. welcome.
How about initiating a Dan Rather Excellence In Journalism Award for va political blogs?
I. forgot. to. add. Been. There. Have. T. Shirt. U?
Craig,
Your personality shows through as clear as day. I’ve explained the credibility of this website’s contributors, if you choose not to accept it, that’s your perogative. I just ask, why are you still reading and commenting if you think so poorly of us?
Congrats on being a representative. I’m sure that was a thrill for you.
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