Rep. Carson: Tea Party would be happy with blacks ‘hanging from a tree’
By Shaun Kenney | Wednesday, August 31st, 2011 | PoliticsSo sayeth yet another Democrat whom — I’m sure — the liberals will instantly disassociate from by saying they simply don’t represent the rest of the Democratic Party…
A Carson spokesman stood by the comments in a statement Tuesday.
“The Tea Party is protecting its millionaire and oil company friends while gutting critical services that they know protect the livelihood of African-Americans, as well as Latinos and other disadvantaged minorities,” Carson spokesman Jason Tomcsi said.
Tomcsi said the Tea Party’s opposition to public programs that provided school lunches, jobs programs, and housing assistance left minority communities unable to grow.
“A child without basic nutrition, secure housing, and quality education has no real chance at a meaningful and productive life,” Tomesi said. “So, yes, the congressman used strong language because the Tea Party agenda jeopardizes our most vulnerable and leaves them without the ability to improve their economic standing.”
Of course, I sure am glad the Tea Party in Virginia has done everything in their power to disassociate themselves from people who think such tactics – like mailing nooses to elected officials they disagree with, for instance — are a good idea.
Because those values aren’t my values. Period.
Otherwise… they could give nonsense like this some credibility.
Of course, this is where we get into further discussion about whether images of nooses and lynching is even remotely appropriate in a discussion where genuine disagreement exists over policy… but I digress (somewhat).
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30 Responses to "Rep. Carson: Tea Party would be happy with blacks ‘hanging from a tree’"
Didn’t that awful practice flourish during the Presidency of Franklin Delano Roosevelt? And didn’t Woodrow Wilson re-segregate the government workforce and military? A shameful policy that Warren Harding and Calvin Coolidge worked to ameliorate? And didn’t Harry Truman have to issue an executive order to desegregate the military because of the filibuster of Dem Senators? And didn’t LBJ’s civil rights legislation pass with Repub support over the objections of Sens Fulbright and Gore Sr?
BTW isn’t African American unemployment at depression levels under Barack Obama? Aren’t their caucus members complaining that the Dems are ignoring them?
Obama and his political cult are lynching business with regulation and hanging the “rich” and the rest of us upside down from their tree to empty whatever is left in our pockets.
Nobody is lynching anyone. That’s just stupid talk.
You’re in denial about Obama’s first stimulus failure and what he is about to do with his new “stimulus” proposal and his new refinance program for mortgages. Bond holders who were lynched in the auto takeover are now going to be drawn and quartered in the mortgage markets.
Yes, and he is wrong about the tea party as well. My sense of the members is that they are of the middle class who feel totally by passed by the political system which has systematically reduced the social, economic, and political prospects for the middle class. I commend the republican party for their success in coopting the movement, but any tea party member that thinks the republican party has their interests at heart is delusional. Cantor and the Republican Study Committee will jettison them the moment they don’t need their votes as they continue protecting the interests of the wealthy class and the rich international corporations and donors at the expense of the rest of us.
Tim says…”Bond holders who were lynched in the auto takeover are now going to be drawn and quartered in the mortgage markets.” I say it could not happen to a more deserving bunch of risk takers. Those on Wall Street who misled investors about the quality of the loan portfolio, knowing full well that Junk status was too high of a rating, need a haircut. So far, those who know of the situation, and benefitted from it both ways, deserve to be part of the solution, even if it costs them a bunch.
So Mike, your in favor of “lynching” those who take risks… how very “Socialist” of you….
No Tim J, I used the term haircut. It was you who mentioned lynched and drawn and quartered. The republican party’s protection of those whose risky behavior caused the financial calamity continues to this day. Their opposition to financial reform and needed regulation to protect the consumer coninues unabated. I am no fan of overregulation, but in view of how Main Street suffered from their laissez faire attitude, I support reasonable oversight.
The folks who really got hurt in the first wave of economic destruction in the automobile manufacturer bond market were retirement and 401k plans in both the public and private sector. Now your people are going to do more of the same and victimize even more people who are just trying to survive through retirement with what little they have left. Republicans didn’t own Congress when your party including Barney, Maxine, Franklin Raines, Timothy Howard, Angelo Mozilo and Greenspan set up the the mortgage ponzi scheme and I hope that some sanity and principle exists in Republicans to try and stop the idiots who are using government give-aways to pander their way through the next election.
Tim J, I believe we have had this exchange before, and I have acknowledged that the mortgage mess was a joint responsibility. That said, the Republican Study Committee has steadfastly refused to acknowledge what is the consensus of economists and the the american people, that is, we need cuts and revenue increases to get the deficit under control. Since the Republican Study Committee vetoed the broad outline of that solution during the debt extension debacle, they now own the problem. They can redeem themselves in the super committee, or they can continue to thwart economic progress. Wanna bet on the outcome?
I’ll bet that Obama loses and a Generic Republican wins.
Tea Party Movement would be happy with Blacks ‘hanging out with us’. There.. Fixed it
Good fix, Turbo!
Mike: “Tim says…”Bond holders who were lynched in the auto takeover are now going to be drawn and quartered in the mortgage markets.” I say it could not happen to a more deserving bunch of risk takers. Those on Wall Street who misled investors about the quality of the loan portfolio, knowing full well that Junk status was too high of a rating, need a haircut.”
Bond holders, Mike, not the sellers. The sellers were the ones who put together the “shitty deals” (ty, Carl Levin) and lied about their quality, profited handsomely from the sales, and then shorted them, profiting again from their demise. In some cases the sellers shorted them even as they were selling them wearing a phony AAA rating.
The “deserving bunch of risk takers” who are losing their shirts are pension funds (including union ones), municipalities, states, etc who bought the bonds.
Let’s be frank: Does anyone here who works for a major party know anything about the markets at all? Does anyone follow financial news?
Primer for the undereducated from salon dot com:
“The pension fund of the state of Indiana, the Indiana State Teacher’s Retirement Fund, and a few other brave souls decided to defy the United States government and challenge the White House’s remarkable intervention and engineering of the Chrysler bankruptcy filing.”
“Not all creditors are created equal. There are a long line of people trying to get their money back, and the bankruptcy law specifically stipulates who has the highest priority. At the front of the line are the “secured” bondholders. At the back of the line are the holders of common shares. Somewhere in the middle are preferred share holders.”
“The White House intefered in Chrysler’s bankruptcy. Legally binding contracts were ignored. The secured creditors were given the message,”
“Sorry but this is how it is and we really don’t care what the law is. We are the law and we can do whatever we want.”
So when Jamie rants about the Chrysler Senior Secured bondholders, and how we need to reestablish the rule of law in the markets so that capital will feel safe to come out and play, THIS IS THE EXAMPLE I AM TALKING ABOUT.
UHH…….
UHH…….DID you all miss something? “Our poor black people have no food at school…? Duh, don’t they have parents?
Sorry, I got distracted and went off topic and into the ditch when I saw this video today…. (Warning to children and Democrats… Strong Language!)
Tim,
While I sympathize with the point you are making, I have to tell you that I have heard rants from Tea Party supporters that are just as ignorant and conspiratorial in their premise.
However, “there was electricity in ancient Africa?” I doubt that. My wife was there in the Peace Corps about 25 years ago and there was no electricity outside of the major capitals. Also, I wonder what she spent her student loan money on?
Her “ancestors” might have been helping the aliens set up shop here on earth and they were using their power tools to make sure that everything would be free for the taking. Both she and Rep. Carson need to take a Congressional junket to visit their ancestral home at the end of the Mayan calendar in 2012, and since there is no Jesus, the aliens may be coming back to give them free stuff and free help like clozapine, amisulpride, olanzapine or risperidone. The tea party has it’s own crack pots to deal with, but I haven’t heard from anyone that our Founders had electricity, yet.
The problem with the Tea party is the radicals are the leaders in some areas.This creates a bad situation for the good people that are in the Tea party.
For those who want to rationalize this away, there’s more than a grain of truth to it:
1. Glenn Beck has called for repealing the 14th Amendment, which the lion’s share of suits from the Civil Rights Era were based on. Were the 14th repealed, we’d effectively be back to Jim Crow the next day, as the case law would fall.
2. Look at some of the signs at teahadist events.
In this case, Carson’s aide’s comments bother me more than Carson’s.
The TEA Party has refused to deal with the crazier members in their ranks. Until they do so, they deserve such attacks.
Henry, that is pure made up BS. You know it.
Who’s Glenn Beck?
Turbo,
Beck is on the record calling for repeal of the 14th.
In what context was Beck calling for the repeal of the 14th? Do you have audio, video, or transcript?
Henry, don’t you mean the 16th amendment?
14th.
Carson is guilty of painting with too broad a brush. That’s a failing the Tea Party itself has been guilty of a time or two as well.
Shaun, does that mean that you will disassociate yourself from George Allen given his public display of nooses outside his office? Just for fun, let’s google “George Allen nooses” and look at all the stuff that comes out.
Look, the establishment needs to stop living in glass houses before their proxy agents go throwing stones at some guy that is not running for office and trying to connect him to others with the same broad brush.
and Steve is right. Republicans are just as guilty. It would certainly be wrong to state that all Democrats want to harm people of color just because the late Sen. KKK Ranking Byrd used to own a pair of sheets.
So while Carson can try to explain away West, Kaine, and Bishop Jackson…….
While Carson apologizes for Democrats tolerating late Sen. Byrd….
While Henry can choose to ignore THIS:
“The federation had given the Tea Party Express a deadline of 3 p.m. Saturday to publicly rebuke Willams and remove him from his leadership ranks. When the group’s leaders refused the demand, the federation’s members voted to expel the Tea Party Express, effective immediately.” http://www.huliq.com/8738/racist-letter-gets-tea-party-express-kicked-out-national-federation
While Henry can say I and other Tea Party members deserved slander/libel from Carson because there are nuts out in EVERY group….
While some find some racist signs attributed to the Tea Party by…..somebody ….and ignore all the wonderful local Tea Party events with plenty of people of color and speakers such as Bishop Jackson,……..
While all that is going on, Shaun can justify his comments while defending George Allen and all the racial issues that the Democrats are going to bury him with should he get nominated.
Va dems know what the GOP establishment wish they could deny. George Allen called a man of indian descent Macaca and might just as well have called him nigger. Heck with Carson calling out tea party when the establishment makes excuses for Macacagate. This was not an isolated incident for the folksy outdated california cowboy, its was merely caught on tape that time. I cannot wait for Allen to be at a debate moderated by “colored folk” and the question arises “Mr. Allen, if the noose that was on display in your law office had nothing to do with lynching, why was it hung from a tree? Did it symbolize western frontier justice memorabilia? If so, would it have looked less out of place on a gallows?”
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