Kaine comes screaming out of the gates for Senate – 13 points behind Allen
By JR Hoeft | Thursday, April 7th, 2011 | PoliticsApparently Virginians remember Kaine’s opposition to energy independence, inability to balance the state budget without proposing raising taxes to their highest in Virginia history, inability to pass any sort of constitutional transportation bill, and closure of a good chunk of our rest areas – a symbol of his gross negligence as governor.
Of course, this poll conducted by Roanoke College assumes George Allen is the GOP nominee and he has a comfortable 45-32 lead over the former part-time governor and full-time Obama cheerleader.
Oh, and Bob McDonnell’s favorables are up to 66% from 57% from just a few months ago. Why is this man not in the discussion for president?
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Conservative to the core; liberal with his opinion! J.R. has been involved in politics for over a decade and has worked on several campaigns in Hampton Roads. He has served on the Executive Committee of the Republican Party of Chesapeake and the Central Committee of the Republican Party of Virginia. He is also the director of “Blogs United” in Virginia. E-mail J.R.. Follow J.R. on Twitter.
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20 Responses to "Kaine comes screaming out of the gates for Senate – 13 points behind Allen"
Quick look at the numbers:
Of the respondents:
84% were white
15.4% liberal
36.8% moderate
44.3% conservative
25.6% Democrat
34.4% Republican
34.3% Independent
Tea Party has a 51/49 Agree/Disagree view
11.2% strongly agree
23% strongly disagree
Ditto Bob McDonnell for potus. His record speaks volumes.
Pay no attention to polls at this point. That being said, Allen is lucky to be running against Kaine rather than Webb and in 2012 rather than another 2006 or 2008. The odds are good he will win.
As for McDonnell, I’m an enthusiast but we simply have to get back to the notion that the Presidency requires extensive relevant prior experience. Before Kennedy, almost all Presidents had been big state governors, military generals, or secretaries of state. Is it an accident that the best President after Eisenhower was a two tern governor of the largest population state? McDonnell is in the middle of his first term of governor. I’ll be happy to vote for him for Senate.
This is going to cause some here convulsions, but I’m going to give Clinton his due: he did have the commonsense to go along with the GOP congress at reforming welfare and balancing the budget after getting his rear handed to him in 1994.
He does not fit your mold, valentinus.
Although Bush 43 does fit and you see what that got us: 2 wars, a massive deficit, and a housing/banking crisis.
Don’t forget that Kaine, shortly before his vacating the Gov. seat sent a letter to Obama/Salazar asking that any off-shore oil leases to be delayed delayed.
Moderate dems would support a McD run.. Why? His leadership style does not pin r against D.. Reasonable people know they can deal with the man. And Kudos to JR for admitting it, Clinton had the commonsense Obama has not exhibited and worked in the center after the 94 elections.
JR in re Clinton
As a centrist Dem leaning friend said to me “It’s sad that a person with such intelligence and political ability turned out to be such a mediocre President.” When Clinton and Obama stood together at the WH Obama shrank to nothing. The problem with Clinton was/is his personal defects and amorality which he could get away with in a small state. If he had been Gov of Ohio or NY etc he never could have kept things as secret as he did. Of course being a Dem he got a media cover-up as well.
In the next couple of election cycles I see McDonnell as a more likely VP selection. I certainly wish him well.
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I think Bob could do it and I believe he would win if he did.
If anyone has been watching the official referendum on Scott Walker’s Pro-Education legislation with Wisconsin’s Supreme Court justice election. It’s a telling of the antics Organizing for America will exercise over the next year and a half.
Two months ago, Prosser held a 2-to-1 lead over Kloppenburg; the election has turned into a stalemate with a potential recount. Kloppenburg may have turned that election around with the help of community organizers.
Even though Kaine is not an incumbent, neither is Allen. Kaine will have the full backing of the Chicago machine-Organizing for America. It is almost Kaine’s to lose no matter what the polls say now.
John J- I disagree that it’s Kaine’s election to lose. Many thought it was Perriello’s (VA 5th Dist.) election to lose with his Soros, Organizing for America, Union support. He lost, big time. So will Kaine.
BTW, have you seen the latest results from the Prosser/Kloppenberg race? Prosser is now ahead by over 7,000 votes, and 100% of the precincts have reported. That’s a lot of bags of found votes that the Liberal’s would have to come up with to turn the race around.
The election is in 20 months.
Jason; That poll sampling is probably an accurate reflection of the 2010 electorate in Virginia. I’d guess the 2012 electorate will be different. Particularly in partisan makeup and that Tea Party agree/disagree number.
Sandy,
Last fall, personally, I saw the Democrats sacrifice the House, state and local reps for the bigger pie, 2012. Now, I see why. If you noticed, Obama campaigned last October for mostly Senators, only a few House members were invited, Perriello’s being one. The machine was by no means ramped up.
OFA, Soros and union support will be in full swing now until 2012 elections. And it will be backed by a youth that will be energized like never before. You are seeing the pep rallies begin all over the nation. This is not about issues; it’s about positioning and gaining support.
Yes, I saw that about the WI Supreme Court elections but there’s not much news coverage of it. I’m actually cheering for Prosser because of how the Democrats and Unions played ball. During the recount, we will witness another Minnesota-Frankin recount.
Those antics like in Wisconsin play to the Democrat constituency.
valentinus, frankly I’m tired of hearing about a liberal media bias/media cover up. If you’re going to make a statement like that show any form of evidence supporting your statement.
Until then, stick with the facts or state your own personal opinions, don’t make things up.
Fact is…Mark Sanford goes for a weekend and the national media was claiming he was AWOL and should be impeached. 14 Wisconsin Democrats neglect their job and they are heroes. What a joke?
Shortly after the Arizona shooting, the Right was to surrender all their rights. A Wisconsin Union teacher proudly provide death threats to the Republicans and she is still enjoying her vacation pay.
I could go on with propaganda our media provides and you need to say this isn’t so.
JJ-wow, you start your comment with “fact is” and then don’t provide any facts.
Mark Sanford– lied to the press and public about where he was so he could go out of the country and have an adulterous affair. Fact was he wasn’t impeached, not even close. (And are you really holding out Mark freaking Sanford as someone who was persecuted by the media? Really? Is his ex-wife part of the media?)
The Wisc. legislators were doing their job as they saw it — trying to prevent the Republican legislators and the governor from striping rights away from their constituents. And they were using every means possible, including the parliamentary manuever of denying the other side a quorum to do that.
Re: the Gifford thing, you’re taking a few comments by people nobody pays much attention to anyway and blowing that up into a huge conspiracy against gun owners, which didn’t happen. No significant changes to the law in response to that incident.
Do you need some cheese with that whine?
Steve,
I’m just pointing out the fact that the media is extremely biased.
Governor Sanford was absent four days with his wife having no concern with his absence: http://articles.nydailynews.com/2009-06-22/news/17924765_1_state-law-enforcement-division-sled-republican-governors-association
Besides, there was some politicians and happy “Useful Idiots” media also calling for his impeachment.
http://beauforttribune.com/archives/12125
It would not be the first time a politician lied to the press as candidate Obama did with a whole press corp on the plane but it’s OK it was Obama:
http://articles.cnn.com/2008-06-06/politics/btsc.welch.obama.press_1_obama-staffers-barack-obama-robert-gibbs?_s=PM:POLITICS
This compared to the Democrat’s heroes. On Mar 7, 2011, they sent a letter to Gov Walker setting up a meeting at the Illinois-Wisconsin state line to negotiate. Negotiate via letters…some heroes:
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2011/03/07/Wis-Dems-seek-meeting-at-Ill-state-line/UPI-33031299488400
I’m just saying…everyone had to know where Mark Sanford was and they found out. We still do not know where the Democrats or Obama was during those times. Hmmm. Funny how that works.
If you want to talk about press giving a pass for affairs we can always bring up John Edwards.
Let’s try this one; these events happened at the same time:
Mayor Bloomberg gets the same coverage as Governor Christie’s Disney vacation. While people were dying because of sanitation worker slowdown:
http://articles.nydailynews.com/2011-01-07/local/27086620_1_sanitation-workers-voice-mail-storm-response
NJ roads looked pretty good and Governor Chris Christie’s coverage was slightly different:
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/135253-gov-christies-office-pushes-back-against-snowstorm-criticism-
Yeah, I know what you mean by people no one pays much attention to…the New York Times. Check out how they wrapped the Tea Party into the Arizona shooting. This was released on the same day Gifford was shot.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/09/us/politics/09capital.html
No, Steve…I’m just pointing out facts. Probably something you’re not familiar with. Save your spin for some other time.
I hope McD runs for President as it would be fun to see him dealing with the folks in the rest of his great country. Can you explain that whole cival war slavery thing to the folks in Ohio, Michigan and NY one more time? LOL
In the Senate, I believe the GOP will self-distruct and Kaine will win in 2012. JMO: Polls mean nothing today… Its not where you start a race, it is where you finish.
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