Someone Should Tell Netanyahu He’s Doing It Wrong
By Shaun Kenney | Friday, December 3rd, 2010 | Policy…because according to Helen Thomas, the Jews run the White House, Hollywood, Congress, and Wall Street:
“I stand by it. I told the truth,” the 90-year-old Thomas told reporters shortly before a speech at a diversity conference Thursday. “I paid a price but it’s worth it to speak the truth.”During a speech that drew quick condemnation from Jews, Thomas took her remarks further.
“Congress, the White House and Hollywood, Wall Street are owned by the Zionists,” Thomas said. “No question.”
Thomas, who is of Lebanese descent and grew up on Detroit’s east side, was a speaker at the eighth annual “Images and Perceptions of Arab Americans” conference at the Byblos Banquet Center. A crowd of 200 gave her a standing ovation.
I mean, in sheer mass I could imagine Helen Thomas being body-snatched by Eric Cartman… and to think this person was part of the stew of reporters filtering your news for decades. Yikes.
Someone should tell Bibi to use that leverage for Israel. Because this administration is certainly not helping things.
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35 Responses to "Someone Should Tell Netanyahu He’s Doing It Wrong"
It’s rare to see someone in this country who is not drunk or Mel Gibson (or both) expressing anti-semitic thoughts so baldly. Perhaps the best that can be said for Helen Thomas is that senility might be her excuse.
Why’d they have to mention Detroit? Who gives a rip where she grew up.
JR: Probably because the Detroit area is known for having the largest Arab population in the U.S. Although, since they said she was of Lebanese descent, I guess they could have skipped that.
Not saying that excuses her anti-semitism, just that we may now have a better idea where it comes from.
Detroit is relevant.. especially Dearborn.
OK…I’m not going to hijack this thread, especially since, if you are a longstanding reader of this blog, you know my feelings about what’s happened to Metro Detroit.
The bottom-line is that if there is a Zionist conspiracy, how come they haven’t bought an ad on Bearing Drift yet?
Shaun,
I could not agree with you more. Anyone who has an agenda that is based on a prejudice for a foreign power over the interests of the United States has no business masquerading as a journalist. I don’t care if it is Helen Thomas or Richard Cohen; they have a freedom to write whatever they want, but serious media shouldn’t publish their biased bullshit.
Jews don’t run Hollywood? Have you guys been living under a rock for the past 50 years? How is it anti-semetic to state a fact? By the way, do you all realize that semetic is in fact a language group applying to Arabs and somewhat Persians as well as Jews?
Check out this article, http://articles.latimes.com/2008/dec/19/opinion/oe-stein19
Here is the most important quote in an article written by a Jew;
“How deeply Jewish is Hollywood? When the studio chiefs took out a full-page ad in the Los Angeles Times a few weeks ago to demand that the Screen Actors Guild settle its contract, the open letter was signed by: News Corp. President Peter Chernin (Jewish), Paramount Pictures Chairman Brad Grey (Jewish), Walt Disney Co. Chief Executive Robert Iger (Jewish), Sony Pictures Chairman Michael Lynton (surprise, Dutch Jew), Warner Bros. Chairman Barry Meyer (Jewish), CBS Corp. Chief Executive Leslie Moonves (so Jewish his great uncle was the first prime minister of Israel), MGM Chairman Harry Sloan (Jewish) and NBC Universal Chief Executive Jeff Zucker (mega-Jewish). If either of the Weinstein brothers had signed, this group would have not only the power to shut down all film production but to form a minyan with enough Fiji water on hand to fill a mikvah.”
So yes, Jew’s do control Hollywood and if you know anything about the Jewish religion you would realize this is no coincidence. Jews place such a high value on education that anyone raised in a Jewish family setting is going to come out a smarter, more educated child, on average, than someone who is not. Now explain how that is anti-semetic?
Another quote, the Foxman quoted is the head of the ADL;
“That’s a very dangerous phrase, ‘Jews control Hollywood.’ What is true is that there are a lot of Jews in Hollywood,” he said. Instead of “control,” Foxman would prefer people say that many executives in the industry “happen to be Jewish,” as in “all eight major film studios are run by men who happen to be Jewish.”
In my opinion, nothing is more anti-Jewish than what he just said. Saying they just happen to be Jewish is an insult to every Jew and every Jewish family who drills the importance of education into their child’s head. To say that a Jew’s religion has nothing to do with his success is the epitome of what you all think “anti-semetism” is.
Jews do run Wall Street and the Banking Industry as well and I don’t think I need to bother pulling up names for that either. Making the argument that being CEO or CFO of a company (or chairman of the FED) doesn’t mean you run it just doesn’t hold much water.
Jews did pretty much run the White House until Rahm left and who do you think is the upcoming Majority Leader in the House of Representatives?
Jews are in major positions of power all over government, banking, and the media. That’s not anti-semetism, that’s a fact. As I said before, it does have a lot to do with their religion. These people are so smart, well educated, and motivated precisely because they were brought up in the one culture on Earth that values education above everything else. Saying Jew’s control the world isn’t racist, its Jewish pride.
This quote from the same article pretty much sums it all up;
“I appreciate Foxman’s concerns. And maybe my life spent in a New Jersey-New York/Bay Area-L.A. pro-Semitic cocoon has left me naive. But I don’t care if Americans think we’re running the news media, Hollywood, Wall Street or the government. I just care that we get to keep running them.”
Like I said, if you go to Synagogue, you will find that most Jew’s are incredibly aware that they run the world and are incredibly proud of it. It’s a shame that there are people who think anytime you call that fact out that you must be anti-semetic and are equated with Hitler.
Until people like you all stop calling people racist and ignorant for stating what are clearly facts, true anti-Jewish sentiment is only going to continue. The biggest favor Jews could do for themselves is to publicly acknowledge what they say privately; “We are a blessing to the world and have therefore taken on the roles of greatest importance and consequence”
I await the ignorant calling me “anti-semetic” with baited breath.
Chris,
I think that you meant to say “bated breath,” unless you exhale worms and small fish. God knows that is not beyond the realm of possibility, given what else you exhale.
What is Obama doing that is that wrong?
It was George Dubyah Bush who was President when the Roadmap to Peace was introduced.
Is it because Obama is pressuring Israel to stop enlarging the settlements? Well if there is going to be Two Lands for Two People they have to stop expanding. There is actually a reward to pro-settlement Israelis if peace attempts fail. If they fail, the settlements can expand and new ones can be started. If peace negotiations succeed there will be limits on where they can expand.
There are quite a few Israelis who want nothing to do with Two Lands for Two People. They describe the West Bank as Judea and Samaria and consider it all to be part of Israel and part of the land promised to them by God. While only a pretty small minority, some think all Palestinians should be deported/forced out of Judea and Samaria. In order for Two Lands for Two Peoples to work, two lands need to exist.
I think the pressure President Obama has brought to bear on Israel has been rather reserved and limited.
Ja! Und be should maken der sure dat der Untermenchen shall burn all zee more brightly in zee ovens!!!
Racist fuck. Go play in traffic.
Two state solution is a waste of time and resources. If Mexico or Canada had engaged us in a skirmish today would we A simply push them across the border if it kept happening or B take matter into our own hands and.. well you get my drift.
Has anyone ever done a map showing where Palestinian and Jewish land has moved back and forth in the last few decades. It wouldn’t be too hard for someone to graph who had access to Israel’s public records and I have a historian’s curiosity on the matter.
@ Heil, I see no racism in Chris’s statements.. None whatsoever.. Much of what he stated is true and I have no problem with it. Zer goot.
Helen Thomas’ latest comment is extremely offensive because it rides on the back of her first, barked at Rabbi Nesenoff during what should have been nothing more than a brief and courteous exchange during the American Jewish Heritage Day celebration at the White House: “Tell them [the Jews] to get the hell out of Palestine.”… and go back home to “Poland, Germany, America, and everywhere else.” You can watch this lovely old lady spew it here: http://www.rabbilive.com/RabbiLIVE/Helen.html
@Chris – not sure, what EXACTLY is your specific point?
@James Quigley – start here. And get ready for a headspin:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Mandate_of_Palestine
James “turbo” Cohen,
As much as you dislike Two Nations for Two Peoples, consider the alternative.
If the most ardent ardent pro-settlement Israelis win, we are going to be forced with a stark choice. Due to demographics we will eventually have a greater Israel where Palestinians are in majority. However some of the pro-settlement people have an answer. Their answer to demographics is forced deportation of all the Palestinians.
If it calls for American leadership to keep Israel from following a path that an overwhelming majority of Americans find objectionable, then I am in favor of this American leadership. Perhaps American leadership can prevent the Israelis from following the dark path. Once Israel alienates America, they will be all alone.
James “turbo” Cohen says:
December 3, 2010 at 8:31 pm
Zer goot.
turbo, if you are going to try to mimic Germans, then at least learn the language. It is “sehr gut.”
Lived over there while working for Siemens.. Still write stuff phonetically.. Scuze my Deutsch.
Little David, If I lived in Israel I would not want conditional peace with palestinians, I would not waste my time expecting peach from any entity that is sworn to want me dead.. Send em back into egypt or jordan or wherever.. Don’t like it do ya.
Uh, the point is that Jew’s are awesome and they are some of the smartest people in the world and happen to run most of it. You all act like someone saying that is a bad thing. I take pride in my Jewish friends and their family being so great. Getting to hang out with them around the holidays has always been highly enriching.
Jews are a close knit, family, and education oriented community, more so than any other in the history of the world. If they didn’t virtually control the world, then I’d be worried.
I mean get real guys, Jew’s are overrepresented in Nobel Prizes, medicine, law, the media, government, etc..
It’s not a conspiracy, except maybe one of ignorance among goyim. All you that think I’m being racist are just too stupid to realize how the world really works.
The only sad part is that most older generation Jew’s still cry anti-semetism anytime someone makes note of how much power they have amassed. Jew’s of the younger generations are fine with it because they see it as a badge of honor.
Oh and Turbo thanks!
HisRoc, you missed the obvious play on words. I said “baited” as in my words, although true, are like ignoramus bait for people too stupid to understand how awesome Jew’s are. Jew’s have real power, they don’t need idiots like half the people on this thread defending them against someone saying they are powerful.
Oh and Shaun Kenney, why don’t you look at the latest arms deal between the US and Israel. Me thinks Netanyahu is doing a pretty good job. There is public tension, but behind the scenes its business as usual. Read Wikileaks much?
Chris –
Obviously (oy-viously?) things could be much better between the United States and Israel at the moment. When insiders are calling the relationship at their lowest point since the 1970s, that should concern every neutral observer of the Middle East.
And no, I don’t read Wikileaks, because there’s nothing said there that most folks haven’t either speculated or written on before. It’s a bright, shiny object for diplomatic gnostics.
I would agree that strong cultures form exceptional people. I would disagree in the strongest possible terms with the sentiment expressed by Helen Thomas.
@Chis – OK, got it. To your point (Jews are awesome; older Jews should embrace their mastery):
Battle-scarred survivors, children of survivors, first/second wave of immigrants, and witnesses to these events carry a sensitivity to (and awareness of) the very fine line between community-wide acceptance of hate speech and active violence. Us old folks understand most youngn’s can’t process systemic or institutional discrimination or ethic nationalism with nearly the same clarity or empathy as generations that live it. We toss this failing into the “youthful inexperience & ignorance” pile and expect you’ll get it, one day.
What is glaringly absent from your posts is evidence of awareness that Helen’s intentions were pretty creepy (“Jews go home”; “Jews control the world”) and reminiscent of:
-pre WWII Germany (“Jews have no culture of their own, but pervert existing cultures …Gemany could stop Jews from conquering the world only by eliminating them AND find extra living space”),
-1950s/60s KKK (“Send ‘em back to Africa”), and
- the carefully orchestrated indoctrination of children in Gaza by Hamas-run Al-Aqsa (“Jews are apes, pigs, and enemies of God”).
The real sad part is that many israeli friends living in PA controlled territory are victims of their own failed government. When Israel pupped out a lot of peace loving muslims jews, christians and other religiouns were forcibly separated. Together they co-operatively built and operated green houses and manufactured much of what people in the region need. Follow the money trail of hate and it leads outside of the region.. If they cut off the hate & discontent, the money stops flowing. Same is true of the weapons from iran and lebanon.. Many israelis have friends and potential trading partners there too but extremism has a foothold.
I warned many jews stupid about their blind admiration for Obama and was labeled a turncoat jew for a year.. Netanyahu had his allies in the US turn on him in many instances as well when he piped up about the risk they faced with an Obama presidency. I spoke of the threat Obamas presented in a crowd at Sandler center at an Obama bamboozle event and was amazed at the sheer number if stupid jews who could not see the threat facing our judeochristian cultural birthplace. It is funny now how many of the same people have apologized and acknowleged that Obama has facilitated a more dangerous situation in the middle east by projecting American weakness.
American jewish dems ignore something Reagan understood all too well as do many senior conservative jews.. during the cold war, Arab nations played us against the USSR in a game of “how much can we shake out of them in loans and military hardware” by making us afraid they wouldn’t be on the same side as their regionally varied ideologies flirted with both communism and democracy. This was at least a part of why the USSR eventually went bottoms up economically… There is a lesson here folks, Netanyahu understands this and has spoken ad nauseum but Dem jews laugh it it.. so did Helen Thomas.
Just my two Sheckels
James Turbo,
OK, you point to Helen Thomas as representative of Democrats but she lost her job and was thrown out of the White House press room. Hardly representative of all of us Democrats.
But let us look at the Netanyahu administration and coalition. Who serves as Israel’s Foreign Minister? Avigdor Lieberman right?
Will Republicans be willing to point to such a man as being representative of why they support Israel?
If Republicans can not support President Obama’s balanced approach then they must support the elements of Netanyahu’s coalition like Avigdor Lieberman who oppose our nation’s efforts.
Little David, I do not point to Helen Thomas as being representative of all democrats but gee whiz, a lot of dems and some gop condoned her unearned press pool dominance for sooo long while a few old fashioned journalists who gather facts without filtering political bias called her what she turned out to be and were fired in one case and reassigned in another for stating what Helen proved to be true about her well over a decade ago. Is she implying that America should be controlled by people who hate Israel and support the manifest policy of anti-Semitism that prevails in the Arab League? David, the mainstream left media has been making excuses for that nasty hag for too long.
Republicans cannot support Obamas approach because it is anything but balanced.. Obama’s and the liberal jews in his administrations efforts, whether intentional or accidental, to isolate Israel have succeeded and he is probably less popular there than the a few kings in the middle east yet the people still value classic American exceptionalism to its core. I sure do miss having a president that upholds the exceptionalism resulting from a wave of prosperity following 2 world wars that past generations gave so much for to pass on to our generation.
ps, Thomas is now on the payroll for Prince Al-Waleed Bin Talal.. Can’t make this stuff up.
Avigdor Lieberman is on Israel’s payroll. Can’t make this stuff up.
Helen Thomas is now on the Arab payroll, who cares? How much influence does she enjoy?
Avigdor Lieberman draws a paycheck from the Israeli government and holds an extremely important position in the government. Apples and oranges? Nope, in this case we’re comparing coconuts and bananas.
Helen Thomas’s alma mater retires the “diversity” award in her honor.
http://edition.cnn.com/2010/US/12/04/helen.thomas.award/
LOL
@Shaun, so I suppose that just because people have speculated that the US assassinated democratically elected leaders and cooperated with the Nazi’s after WWII means we shouldn’t go through the declassified proof? By the way, the proof does exist and its our own documents that do the talking. Do I need to get a “paperclip” to hold all the evidence together for you? Should I buy you some “ajax” to clean off the stain it left all over the middle east? LOL
Big kudos to anyone who got those jokes…
Sure, publicly things look bad between the US and Israel, but if you read that which you so flatteringly dismissed, you will see that publicity is just masking the major underlying fact;
The US is never going to leave Israel out in the cold. Rhetoric aside, the facts on the ground are not going to change. Mossad has us by the balls and if you bothered reading the old declassified memos and the new Wikileaks ones, you’d know that. Just ask the underwear bomber’s daddy who was on Mossad’s payroll while he ran DICON.
I’m not making this stuff up people, so quit acting like Helen Thomas is some evil person for calling it like she sees it. Whatever her motives are, shes got the facts right.
Helen Thomas most certainly did not get the facts straight. And yes, the United States is never going to leave Israel out in the cold.
None of those two facts have anything to do with this “Jews run the world” nonsense. That’s just utter crap.
And Wikileaks? Seriously? There’s nothing in there that any intelligent observer didn’t already suspect or know. Why this is such a revelation just galls me…
Seriously? You cannot even acknowledge how important concrete evidence of illegal US actions are to the grand-scheme of things?
Prior to actual CIA After Action Reports being declassified for Operation AJAX, pundits and politicos alike could dismiss claims that we had Iran’s government overthrown in the 50′s as mere conspiracy theory. Now with the documents to point at and reference, calling someone a “crazy conspiracy theorist” just won’t work.
Enter Wikileaks and we have what used to take decades coming out in basically real time. I think the official US compendium of these cables is released only up to 1975.
Me saying the CIA was using the state department to conduct illegal spying activities on UN diplomats was “crazy conspiracy theory” just a week or so ago.
Or maybe as you say, “nothing in there that any intelligent observer didn’t already suspect or know.”
I suppose all those intelligent observers have been to scared to think aloud for the past decade or so? I haven’t heard a focus from you on any of those issues and they are a heck of a lot more important than some of the other policy questions debated on this blog and most mainstream media outlets.
As for the “Jews run the world” nonsense. That’s just utter crap”
There’s nothing wrong with supporting Israel, they by all means should be supported, so why on Earth is it wrong to call out that the pro-israel lobby is one of, if not the, largest and most powerful lobbies in the world. Israel is so central to our foreign policy and really the fabric of our Judeo-Christian society that support for it is a practically sacrosanct idea in politics.
So explain to me again how Helen Thomas stating the facts is such an evil thing?
If you want to do this the scientific way, we can ask the heads of the Fortune 500, every Federal elected official and political appointees, the heads of every media outlet and bank, and every newspaper editor in the country what they think about support for Israel?
I’d be the US GDP that the vast majority of them are going to have extremely positive views of Israel and favor or are actively supporting it in some way or another. Is this wrong? Of course not. So explain again why calling it out is wrong?
Israel is great, support for them is a must. Lets be totally honest about that, it’s in our best interest a million different ways. Discounting pro-Jewish and pro-Israel bias in our view of world affairs as anti-semetic does not make any sense at all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvmDZ05nMCM
In her own words
Society is doomed to fail if you all really think that video was hate-filled anti-semetism.
So thinking that we shouldn’t have invaded and occupied Iraq and Afghanistan is now anti-semetic? We handed Iraq to Iran on a silver platter and basically gave the Chinese and Indians Afghanistan. Our own documents showed that we systematically lied to go to and stay at war in both countries and that the media was complicit in it all.
Quite a “CURVEBALL”
Saying the pro-Israel lobby controls the White House, Congress, banks etc.. I’ve already established that’s completely true. If only in the sense that everyone in power just “happens” to support Israel. Everyone supports Israel because its the right thing to do, but in some cases it means ignoring other allies because we have a stronger bond with Israel.
I suppose none of you are familiar with the deals the US inked with all those Arab countries re: National Defense for Oil?
I say again, Helen Thomas didn’t saying anything in that 7 minute speech that I couldn’t show to be true from declassified US documents and the historical record.
Anti-semetism is a label that should be saved for when someone makes a statement like, “Jews are inherently evil and should all be put to death”
Helen Thomas saying the media doesn’t like Arabs and that the US always sides with Israel should be a non-story because of how self-evidently true it is.
@Chris – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vso35DyG8QM
I just watched the youtube that James Cohen just put out and found what I consider errors on Helen Thomas’s part, but nothing inherently anti-Israel or anti-Jew. That does not go for her past statements, however, I acknowledge that you can disagree with the justification or fairness of US policy bias toward Israel without being a racist. Just as you can disagree with blanket amnesty without condition and still not be a racist with regard to Hispanics. (even though it isn’t even just Hispanics in the illegal immigrant crowd).
Although, in my opinion, Helen Thomas probably is a racist.
For Chris Meeropol (or what ever your real name is, I heard there was confusion as to your real identity. Feel free to clarify if you wish):
Chris, there is a difference between stating fact and couching selected truths to elicit a negative and emotional reaction. Really, your little blurb as to Jewish superiority could be either coming from a self worshipping racial supremacist that was Jewish, or it could have just as easily been inflammatory propaganda from the Marketing Manager of a new Neo-Nazi group planning to scapegoat the “evil Jew” for all our woes and sew fear in the hearts of all non-Jews.
Chris, you sir, are not helping race relations. You seem to be playing both sides, but whatever side you are on, you are stoking fires of racial tension. You are race baiting.
Now, are Arabs painted with a broad brush for what some dishonorable nut jobs did in executing the 9-11 terror attack? Absolutely! That is unfortunate and it doesn’t probably hurt to remind everyone that all Muslims are not the same.
Jews, Chris’s allegations of them ruling the world not withstanding, have also faced racial bias. Especially historically on a genocidal scale. Evidently, hating the Jewish people is still in fashion.
Instead of race baiting and name calling, why can’t we stick to issues? It is easier to get things done that way.
I mean Chris, you come up with anecdotal truths and really warp any legitimate context. Maybe we can ask Mayor Will Sessoms if he knows any bankers that are not Jewish.
One could as easily and falsely claim that Catholics rule the world.
Here is a bogus example of anecdotal evidence:
1)Gov. Bob McDonnell is a Catholic
2)Va. Att. Gen. Ken Cuccinelli is Catholic
Well, Catholics must run Virginia at least. Coincidence or conspiracy? I hear certain BD contributors might be Catholic, so that seals it!
Hmmm…all those Jewish lawyers, and according to Chris, Jews run everything, even Mel Gibson, but how about all those Jewish lawyers and yet………the Supreme Court is dominated by what religion? That would be Catholic, Chris. The vast majority of people immigrating to America, illegal or not, are what? Not Jewish,they are Catholic, Chris. The Pope’s invasion plan? Only the nut ball conspirators know for sure.
See, I can draw up an idiotic conspiracy and monger fear just as easily as you can. I can even tell the truth while doing it. So, how about you stick to supporting issues or candidates instead of throwing race around, just because you can?
Jay D, there were some good points in support of free speech, the fact that Palestinians were made to pay for crimes, they did not themselves commit etc. I totally get the idea that the press should at times challenge the status quo and “go there”.
The problem is, Helen Thomas deserved to be fired. Not for so much for disagreeing publicly with certain policies, but for being stupid in the way she did it and causing marketing problems and embarrassment for her employer.
There is a vast difference between making a point about fairness and the complex nature of some issues that the public ignores and suggesting that Jews or any group of people should now be forced to move. Pointing out some injustices brought out on Palestinians specifically and Arabs in general, is one thing. Even suggesting Palestinians are due some sort of compensation might be warranted. However, she didn’t just “go there”. She went there in a way that displayed disdain for a race of people who were put there for a crime they didn’t commit either! It was the world powers that orchestrated that. The desires of the Jews not withstanding, the world powers made that happen and deserve the blame.
I did enjoy that clip.
Well said Britt – 2 thumbs up.
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