Bad does not equal unconstitutional, but . . .
By D.J. McGuire | Monday, November 29th, 2010 | Policy
There was a time, I believe it was in 2007, when I declared that blogospoheric dustups like the Kenney-Schoeneman battle over constitutionality could not happen while I was away from the blogosphere. Then again, nobody listened to me then either. So while Comcast was trying to figure out what went wrong, all hell breaks loose in Bearing Drift.
After making my way through both posts, and a slew of comments on either side, I have come to conclude that both men are, well, half-right. Shaun (a good friend of mine with whom I seldom disagree) has his heart in the right place, but his First Party history is a little off (as it turns out, nearly all disagreements we do have are in some way linked to the First Party period). Brian, by contrast, gets a whole lot of the present wrong along with one glaring error about the past, an error with distracts from his main argument on constutionality, which is more sound than even he argues.
We must remember that many Framers – including the all-important Hamilton, Madison, and Washington – served in the central government right after the Constitution was ratified. As such, their actions should carry great weight as to what the document allows, since they were instrumental in writing and ratifying it (this especially relates to Madison and Hamilton).
For starters, the notion of the central government paying and overseeing pensions began in the Congress’ first year – 1789, when Federal Hall created a national pension for Revolutionary War veterans. From that point forward, the idea that the Constitution prevented a group of people from receiving a national entitlement was doomed – and in fact opponents of such plan relied on philosophical arguments rather than legal ones. As for getting the money in the first place (the payroll tax), while most focus on the 16th Amendment, the fact is that taxes on wages were always considered constitutional. Amendment XVI focused on the source of income in order to invalidate previous legal decisions that declared taxes on interest, investment, and rent income beyond the central government’s power to tax.
As for things like the Department of Education, which is basically a nexus for taxpayer funds to be redirected to state education systems, one can look to the 1791 debt assumption as precedent enough – an action whose constitutional muster was never challenged even by its Madisonian opponents. Madison himself set the precedent for the central government attaching strings to its money when he fought for a provision that spared his home state some of the financial brunt of the assumption. Congress has been attaching conditions on money to the states ever since.
The final problem with Shaun’s argument comes from the interstate commerce issue, which was actually put to rest in Gibbons v. Ogden, when Marshall put the kibosh on New York’s attempt to regulate New Jersey’s steamboat industry.
That said, Gibbons gives me the opportunity to segue from Shaun’s error to Brian’s. Contrary to what many would believe (and sadly, are taught), Marshall’s court did not establish judicial supremacy regarding constitutional matters. Indeed, what nearly everyone seems to forget (in some cases, by design) is that in the famous Marbury v. Madison, the Marshall Court limited its own power by rejecting authority Congress had granted to the judicial branch. If anything, Marshall established that the judicial branch had authority over its own powers. Future major decisions (Gibbons included) largely blocked states from encroaching on national authority. The idea that the juidicial branch would have special constitutional authority within the national government was never established.
In fact, Marshall himself experienced the weakness of his branch on that score when he attempted to invalidate attempts to expel the “Five Civilized Tribes” in the 1830s. President Andrew Jackson privately dared Marshall to enforce the decision, and publicly expounded that each branch was of equal standing in determining constitutionality. Marshall, as far as I know, never rebuked Jackson or his defenders for that position (although Jackson’s Whig critics did, and loudly).
The notion that the Court was the final arbiter of constitutional matters did not become fashionable until the late 1850s, when Southern Democrats tried to pre-sell (and then hard-sell) the odious Dred Scott decision, a cacaphony of factual and historical errors in which the Court attempted to invalidate all African-American citizens (of which there were thousands in New England and New York at least), vacate a law already repealed by Congress three years earlier (the Missouri Compromise) and effectively declare parts of the Constitution itself unconstitutional (the clauses that explicitly gave Congress the power to deal with slavery after 1808).
Just in case that fiasco, in and of itself, isn’t enough to question thewisdom of judicial supremacy, keep in mind that the Court has declared itself in error within a timespan less than an average lifetime (Brown v. Board of Ed which wiped out Plessy v. Ferguson), and justices have announced that their own decisions were mistaken (in 1986, then-Chief Justice Warren Burger renounced his 1973 vote in favor of Roe v. Wade).
The reality is that the judicial branch has always been as political as the other two (again, the capital-F Federalist in me remembers when it was the only sympathetic branch in the Jefferson era), and it should be treated as such. Indeed, the Constitution grants Congress the power to bar the Court from dealing with any particular issue – should Obamacare go down, as I think it should, look for Democrats to suddenly rediscover this clause. I would humbly submit to Brian that the First Congress is a better foundation for his argument than the Court, but that’s just me.
However, when it comes to the present, Brian is way off base. He makes the same mistake that many make about the tea-brewers (my term): that they are largely homogenous in thought and action. In fact, they are a mass of masses, a group of groups, a swath of the electorate without any leader in the usual sense. The closest thing to a leader – the Tea Party Express – exploded its claim to leadership when it endorsed Walter Minnick for Congress.
From my experience with the Teabrewers, their main constitutional objections are aimed at Obamacare, the one area where Brian, Shaun, and I all agree. The rest are policy matters, not legal ones. In fact, many of them would side with Brian and against Shaun on the matter of military affairs (in which case, it would not be the First Congress, but Jefferson’s war against the Barbary Pirates – with Madison firmly at his side as Secretary of State – that sets the precedent).
So, sadly, and as much as we’d like to think otherwise, Bad doesn’t automatically equal unconstitutional (sorry, Shaun). In fact, one painful truth we all must acknowledge is that the Constitution itself does not provide the automatic protection against overarching government that many believe it does – this is where the views of John Randolph and Nathaniel Macon have tremendous import.
However, populist doesn’t automatically equal bad and ignorant (sorry, Brian). After all, it was one of the founders of modern anglo-conservatism (Edmund Burke) who noted the need for tradition, culture, and custom in preserving liberty – all defended and advanced more by the masses than by the elites (which, in Burke’s time, usually tried to carve out exemptions for themselves). This was particularly evident in the Second Party system, in which both parties staked their claims to power on the wisdom of the masses rather than the elitism which sank the Federalists.
More to the point, both Shaun and Brian will need each other and the likeminded folks for whom each speaks if the excesses of the Obama Administration are ever to be reversed – but I suspect they know that already.
My long wind is out of air. Time for the “sorry DJ” comments.
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8 Responses to "Bad does not equal unconstitutional, but . . ."
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I’d have to stop you at the Barbary Pirates, because as I often argue with others — Jefferson did indeed conduct pre-emptive war against a foreign power, and deemed it highly constitutional.
In that particular instance, I believe Jefferson — and by extension, Lincoln against the South and Bush in Iraq — to have upheld their oath to the Constitution as well as exercised powers within the spirit of the social contract.
All that having been said… the point is well taken that “the Constitution itself does not provide the automatic protection against overarching government that many believe it does.”
The disagreement over whether those who look at the Constitution and look at today’s federal government and cannot equate the two, and which is right? That’s still lingering (and I think you provide a well-stated argument back to the light).
I’d be curious to hear others respond to this. Very well done, D.J.
A very good post indeed. Shaun, obviously you have way more years and knowledge in the subject that I do, but I still very much have to contend with the point that preemptive war is constitutional. Section 8 clearly states that the congress has the power to declare war, which has not been done in the case of Iraq and most certainly not in the war of northern aggression which might be the most flagrant of all violations in the country’s history. If any president should have been charged with war crimes, it was president Lincoln.
Very good post. Makes a lot of good points. For whatever it is worth I believe in preemptive war, but will leave it at that so this doesn’t turn into a debate over that.
My one question is on the constitutionality of social security and medicare. I haven’t researched the constitutional arguments against those in a while, but it seems like the example pointed to in this article is a retroactive pension plan for federal employees, instead of a national welfare program. Just saying the example doesn’t seem to corellate well to the current situation. The article was very worth the read though.
DJ, don’t get me wrong – I’m not trying to blow up what happened in Marbury into a claim that only the Supreme Court has the authority to construe the constitution. You’re right – most people don’t dig into the guts of Marbury and recognize what it did in the short term – which was basically to demonstrate that Congress could not grant the Supreme Court authority it was not granted in the Constitution and Congress was not empowered to alter – meant that the Court was deciding what the Constitution meant and acting on that.
I agree with you 100% that the Supreme Court, like the other two branches, are inherently political and are subject to similar political pressure as the elected branches. Marbury was a masterful example of that, where you had Jefferson and his cronies twisting Marshall’s arm and threatening him and the rest of the court with impeachment over outcome of the case. Roosevelt’s court packing scheme resulted in an abrupt 180 from past Court precedent and allowed for the creation of today’s modern administrative structure. Many times the Court’s budget has been threatened as has it’s jurisdiction over certain issues. They do react to outside pressure, but they are also very jealous of their prestige as the most popularly supported branch of government.
I don’t believe that the Tea Party is homogeneous at all – in fact, I’ve argued against that concept many times, including over at Common Sense here – http://www.novacommonsense.com/2010/07/19/enough-with-the-tea-party-racism-accustations/
But I appreciate the post – a very good one and I’m glad to see that we can argue this kind of stuff.
Dan, I’ve given you at least twice now the rationale for why undeclared wars are not unconstitutional. The Civil War was a rebellion – there’s nothing in the Constitution that requires someone certify if a state is in rebellion for responding to it. Lincoln did what he had to do, but that’s an entirely different debate.
Very nice article, DJ. You totally get the Tea Party and articulated that underdtanding well. One of the things I adore about the Tea Party is the forum to cooperate with people that differ on many different other issues in order to push for what we all strongly agree on. The Religious Right marching with conservative Democrats , fiscal conservative Republicans, and Libertarians. A beautiful effort from many sides.
On the war issue, I do believe in pre-emptive strikes when intention and danger is obvious. My issue with the constitutionality of the WARs is not in the initiation. The Executive should be able to immediately take military action\reprisal as needed without congressional consent. Where I have a problem is where it goes from an initial act to a long standing war. I always thought Bush’s starting with Iraq & Afghanistan was legal.The Congressional ok to initiate force was not their place and it wasn’t necessary beyond symbolism. After all, they never declared war.
At some point………..Congress should have declared war after the initial acts at some point to maintain long standing action. Which they never did. Either go to war all the way or stay home. Overwhelming Force should accompany an overwhelming consensus and resolve on the part of Congress.
The left is very afraid of Any discussion of the Constitution. So I am heartened by what appears to be an increasing awareness of the Constitution in the public and even among some in the political class. Thanks to all for the interesting debate.
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