Comments on: New candidates for GOP emerging for 2012 – Thune and Johnson? http://bearingdrift.com/2010/07/27/new-candidates-for-gop-emerging-for-2012-thune-and-johnson/ Thu, 02 Sep 2010 19:43:25 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Aaron http://bearingdrift.com/2010/07/27/new-candidates-for-gop-emerging-for-2012-thune-and-johnson/comment-page-1/#comment-43971 Aaron Sat, 07 Aug 2010 23:49:32 +0000 http://bearingdrift.com/2010/07/27/new-candidates-for-gop-emerging-for-2012-thune-and-johnson/#comment-43971 Gary Johnson all the way. Its about time we had somebody in office who is actually OF the people. Born and bred, self made man. And the hypocrisy surrounding cannabis prohibition is insane. Its far safer then alcohol or tobacco. All prohibiting does is create and fuel a violent black market who is massive in scope, and wealthy beyond imagination. If we were truly Conservative and valued our safety and the safety of our children, then cannabis would be made legal, regulated, and taxed. PERIOD. This country has a much too short memory. Remember what happened with prohibition of alcohol in the 1930s.... EXACTLY. THIS HAS to be done. Gary Johnson all the way. Its about time we had somebody in office who is actually OF the people. Born and bred, self made man. And the hypocrisy surrounding cannabis prohibition is insane. Its far safer then alcohol or tobacco. All prohibiting does is create and fuel a violent black market who is massive in scope, and wealthy beyond imagination. If we were truly Conservative and valued our safety and the safety of our children, then cannabis would be made legal, regulated, and taxed. PERIOD. This country has a much too short memory. Remember what happened with prohibition of alcohol in the 1930s…. EXACTLY. THIS HAS to be done.

]]> By: Anne http://bearingdrift.com/2010/07/27/new-candidates-for-gop-emerging-for-2012-thune-and-johnson/comment-page-1/#comment-43559 Anne Thu, 29 Jul 2010 02:53:50 +0000 http://bearingdrift.com/2010/07/27/new-candidates-for-gop-emerging-for-2012-thune-and-johnson/#comment-43559 And oh yes I'm with DJ and James on Thune Tarp vote = rino. No Rino Deal Breakers! And oh yes I’m with DJ and James on Thune Tarp vote = rino.

No Rino Deal Breakers!

]]> By: Anne http://bearingdrift.com/2010/07/27/new-candidates-for-gop-emerging-for-2012-thune-and-johnson/comment-page-1/#comment-43558 Anne Thu, 29 Jul 2010 02:43:28 +0000 http://bearingdrift.com/2010/07/27/new-candidates-for-gop-emerging-for-2012-thune-and-johnson/#comment-43558 I agree with: Any of the presumed “front runners”…Palin, Romney, Gingrich, Huckabee, and yes, Jeb Bush are all a big fat no in my book but Especially Romney(no;-o) ..Gingrich (No;-o ) and Palin (I like her ok but moderates would not vote for her I don't think) Those three would a sure win for obama 2012.. I agree with:
Any of the presumed “front runners”…Palin, Romney, Gingrich, Huckabee, and yes, Jeb Bush are all a big fat no in my book but Especially Romney(no;-o)
..Gingrich (No;-o )
and Palin (I like her ok but moderates would not vote for her I don’t think)
Those three would a sure win for obama 2012..

]]> By: James Hawkins http://bearingdrift.com/2010/07/27/new-candidates-for-gop-emerging-for-2012-thune-and-johnson/comment-page-1/#comment-43539 James Hawkins Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:15:36 +0000 http://bearingdrift.com/2010/07/27/new-candidates-for-gop-emerging-for-2012-thune-and-johnson/#comment-43539 @ Mike Barrett Take a look at http://wewillnotbesilenced2008.com/ Gigi Gaston, a writer/director who has made a documentary outlining the rampant voter fraud perpetrated by the Obama campaign during the 2008 primaries against Hillary Clinton. Gaston is a lifelong Democrat whose grandfather was a Democratic governor of Massachusetts… Is this "normal politics" for the Democratic Party ?? I really do not know. What do you have to say about all of this?? Take a look at this. Start at 3:50. Listen to what Helene Latimer has to say. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4XFvq5XMk8 These are not republicans or tea party people. These are your fellow democrats and this is what they are saying. "This documentary is about the disenfranchising of American citizens by the Democratic Party and the Obama Campaign. We the People have made this film. Democrats have sent in their stories from all parts of America. We want to be heard and let the country know how our party has sanctioned the actions of what we feel are Obama Campaign “Chicago Machine” dirty politics. We believe this infamous campaign of “change” from Chicago encouraged and created an army to steal caucus packets, falsify documents, change results, allow unregistered people to vote, scare and intimidate Hillary supporters, stalk them, threaten them, lock them out of their polling places, silence their voices and stop their right to vote, which is, of course, all documented in “We Will Not Be Silenced.” “We Will Not Be Silenced” is about the people who fight back by simply telling their stories: Teachers, professors, civil rights activists, lawyers, janitors, physicists, ophthalmologists, accountants, mathematicians, retirees – all bound together by their love of America and Democracy. They will tell us their experiences and how they feel betrayed by their own party. They will discuss how their party has disenfranchised them and how, when they saw and reported multiple instances of fraud, everyone turned a blind eye. Rather than support and protect the voices and votes of its loyal members, the DNC chose to sweep this under the rug by looking the other way, or using ceremony and quasi-investigations to assuage angry voters. It is our opinion there never before has been such a “dirty” campaign; the campaign that has broken the hearts and spirits of American voters, who once believed in the Democractic voting system." What is going on here ????? Perhaps the Democratic Party needs a leader like John Kennedy who believed the American people need to be what they were born to be, free and independent. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jj6bk66SuMc&feature=related @ Mike Barrett

Take a look at http://wewillnotbesilenced2008.com/

Gigi Gaston, a writer/director who has made a documentary outlining the rampant voter fraud perpetrated by the Obama campaign during the 2008 primaries against Hillary Clinton. Gaston is a lifelong Democrat whose grandfather was a Democratic governor of Massachusetts…

Is this “normal politics” for the Democratic Party ?? I really do not know. What do you have to say about all of this??

Take a look at this. Start at 3:50. Listen to what Helene Latimer has to say.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4XFvq5XMk8

These are not republicans or tea party people. These are your fellow democrats and this is what they are saying.

“This documentary is about the disenfranchising of American citizens by the Democratic Party and the Obama Campaign. We the People have made this film. Democrats have sent in their stories from all parts of America. We want to be heard and let the country know how our party has sanctioned the actions of what we feel are Obama Campaign “Chicago Machine” dirty politics. We believe this infamous campaign of “change” from Chicago encouraged and created an army to steal caucus packets, falsify documents, change results, allow unregistered people to vote, scare and intimidate Hillary supporters, stalk them, threaten them, lock them out of their polling places, silence their voices and stop their right to vote, which is, of course, all documented in “We Will Not Be Silenced.”
“We Will Not Be Silenced” is about the people who fight back by simply telling their stories: Teachers, professors, civil rights activists, lawyers, janitors, physicists, ophthalmologists, accountants, mathematicians, retirees – all bound together by their love of America and Democracy. They will tell us their experiences and how they feel betrayed by their own party. They will discuss how their party has disenfranchised them and how, when they saw and reported multiple instances of fraud, everyone turned a blind eye. Rather than support and protect the voices and votes of its loyal members, the DNC chose to sweep this under the rug by looking the other way, or using ceremony and quasi-investigations to assuage angry voters. It is our opinion there never before has been such a “dirty” campaign; the campaign that has broken the hearts and spirits of American voters, who once believed in the Democractic voting system.”

What is going on here ?????

Perhaps the Democratic Party needs a leader like John Kennedy who believed the American people need to be what they were born to be, free and independent.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jj6bk66SuMc&feature=related

]]> By: Mike Barrett http://bearingdrift.com/2010/07/27/new-candidates-for-gop-emerging-for-2012-thune-and-johnson/comment-page-1/#comment-43537 Mike Barrett Wed, 28 Jul 2010 14:41:58 +0000 http://bearingdrift.com/2010/07/27/new-candidates-for-gop-emerging-for-2012-thune-and-johnson/#comment-43537 Perhaps you are correct; I am not a constitutional scholar and will have to leave such esoteric questions to the courts. However, from a pragmatic standpoint, while I abhor the need to bail out these companies, I believe the consensus among economists is that it was absolutely necessary. Further, the need for stimulus is not over if we are to begin a solid recovery. Then it is time for deficit reduction. Perhaps you are correct; I am not a constitutional scholar and will have to leave such esoteric questions to the courts. However, from a pragmatic standpoint, while I abhor the need to bail out these companies, I believe the consensus among economists is that it was absolutely necessary. Further, the need for stimulus is not over if we are to begin a solid recovery. Then it is time for deficit reduction.

]]> By: J. Christopher Stearns http://bearingdrift.com/2010/07/27/new-candidates-for-gop-emerging-for-2012-thune-and-johnson/comment-page-1/#comment-43535 J. Christopher Stearns Wed, 28 Jul 2010 14:10:29 +0000 http://bearingdrift.com/2010/07/27/new-candidates-for-gop-emerging-for-2012-thune-and-johnson/#comment-43535 @ Mike Barrett I think it's important to look at TARP from a rule-of-law perspective. The debate can go on endlessly about whether it was needed or not, but the question should ultimately be, "Where does the federal government have the authority to __________"? While Medicaid, Medicare and Social Security are (unfortunately) justified through general welfare and commerce in the Constitution, there is no solid ground that could even remotely authorize the TARP program. Additionally, the treasury department didn't use the allocated funds as specified in the TARP program as intended by the Congress. The money was supposed to be used to purchase illiquid assets, but was instead used for a variety of other purposes. Ultimately, I don't see many big difference between George W. Bush and Barack H. Obama (or the Democrat and Republican party establishments). They both support the big-government, bailouts, deficit-spending and unnecessary international aggression. @ Mike Barrett

I think it’s important to look at TARP from a rule-of-law perspective. The debate can go on endlessly about whether it was needed or not, but the question should ultimately be, “Where does the federal government have the authority to __________”?

While Medicaid, Medicare and Social Security are (unfortunately) justified through general welfare and commerce in the Constitution, there is no solid ground that could even remotely authorize the TARP program.

Additionally, the treasury department didn’t use the allocated funds as specified in the TARP program as intended by the Congress. The money was supposed to be used to purchase illiquid assets, but was instead used for a variety of other purposes.

Ultimately, I don’t see many big difference between George W. Bush and Barack H. Obama (or the Democrat and Republican party establishments). They both support the big-government, bailouts, deficit-spending and unnecessary international aggression.

]]> By: Mike Barrett http://bearingdrift.com/2010/07/27/new-candidates-for-gop-emerging-for-2012-thune-and-johnson/comment-page-1/#comment-43532 Mike Barrett Wed, 28 Jul 2010 13:34:11 +0000 http://bearingdrift.com/2010/07/27/new-candidates-for-gop-emerging-for-2012-thune-and-johnson/#comment-43532 So does fiscal conservatism mean that you let out of control corporations do anything they want even if it means the destruction of the world wide financial system? Frankly, most actual business people I know hold their nose at TARP but agree it was needed, and support the financial regulatory reform bill. Does that disqualify them from republican support? Sounds to me as if this forum essentially supports a return to the Bush/Cheney era of more tax cuts, higher deficits, and international corporate control of national economies, and if you think that is what the teaparty is all about, I think you are in for a licking. So does fiscal conservatism mean that you let out of control corporations do anything they want even if it means the destruction of the world wide financial system? Frankly, most actual business people I know hold their nose at TARP but agree it was needed, and support the financial regulatory reform bill. Does that disqualify them from republican support? Sounds to me as if this forum essentially supports a return to the Bush/Cheney era of more tax cuts, higher deficits, and international corporate control of national economies, and if you think that is what the teaparty is all about, I think you are in for a licking.

]]> By: James "turbo" Cohen http://bearingdrift.com/2010/07/27/new-candidates-for-gop-emerging-for-2012-thune-and-johnson/comment-page-1/#comment-43529 James "turbo" Cohen Wed, 28 Jul 2010 11:53:00 +0000 http://bearingdrift.com/2010/07/27/new-candidates-for-gop-emerging-for-2012-thune-and-johnson/#comment-43529 Tarp vote = rino. I'm with DJ on this. Its a deal breaker.. just like giving one thousand dollars to Obama. Tarp vote = rino. I’m with DJ on this. Its a deal breaker.. just like giving one thousand dollars to Obama.

]]> By: D.J. McGuire http://bearingdrift.com/2010/07/27/new-candidates-for-gop-emerging-for-2012-thune-and-johnson/comment-page-1/#comment-43527 D.J. McGuire Wed, 28 Jul 2010 11:46:45 +0000 http://bearingdrift.com/2010/07/27/new-candidates-for-gop-emerging-for-2012-thune-and-johnson/#comment-43527 Thune voted for TARP. No dice. Thune voted for TARP. No dice.

]]> By: Craig Kilby http://bearingdrift.com/2010/07/27/new-candidates-for-gop-emerging-for-2012-thune-and-johnson/comment-page-1/#comment-43518 Craig Kilby Wed, 28 Jul 2010 04:01:57 +0000 http://bearingdrift.com/2010/07/27/new-candidates-for-gop-emerging-for-2012-thune-and-johnson/#comment-43518 I don't think the legalization issue is nearly as volatile as the abortion issue. It probably comes as no suprise that I am rather Libertarian in some respects. Since state and local governments rely ever more increasingly on sin taxes, I would think the legalization issue would be easy to sell. "Don't tax you, don't tax me, tax the man behind the tree." Hey, maybe we could fund more light rail with the tax on MJ. Or even the entire transportation budget....how about Education? I don’t think the legalization issue is nearly as volatile as the abortion issue. It probably comes as no suprise that I am rather Libertarian in some respects. Since state and local governments rely ever more increasingly on sin taxes, I would think the legalization issue would be easy to sell. “Don’t tax you, don’t tax me, tax the man behind the tree.” Hey, maybe we could fund more light rail with the tax on MJ. Or even the entire transportation budget….how about Education?

]]> By: Ward Smythe http://bearingdrift.com/2010/07/27/new-candidates-for-gop-emerging-for-2012-thune-and-johnson/comment-page-1/#comment-43515 Ward Smythe Wed, 28 Jul 2010 02:59:53 +0000 http://bearingdrift.com/2010/07/27/new-candidates-for-gop-emerging-for-2012-thune-and-johnson/#comment-43515 kingsmoothie and Craig, I'd be happy to leave those issues to the states as well. But a lot of people won't. All I'm saying is that they'll have to be addressed. kingsmoothie and Craig, I’d be happy to leave those issues to the states as well. But a lot of people won’t.

All I’m saying is that they’ll have to be addressed.

]]> By: Craig Kilby http://bearingdrift.com/2010/07/27/new-candidates-for-gop-emerging-for-2012-thune-and-johnson/comment-page-1/#comment-43514 Craig Kilby Wed, 28 Jul 2010 02:48:06 +0000 http://bearingdrift.com/2010/07/27/new-candidates-for-gop-emerging-for-2012-thune-and-johnson/#comment-43514 @kingsmoothie. Right on. @kingsmoothie. Right on.

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]]> By: valentinus http://bearingdrift.com/2010/07/27/new-candidates-for-gop-emerging-for-2012-thune-and-johnson/comment-page-1/#comment-43507 valentinus Wed, 28 Jul 2010 00:47:07 +0000 http://bearingdrift.com/2010/07/27/new-candidates-for-gop-emerging-for-2012-thune-and-johnson/#comment-43507 Folks, I have nothing against either but can we first get through 2010. If the Repubs don't win big in 2010 this site may not matter or even exist by 2012. Folks,

I have nothing against either but can we first get through 2010. If the Repubs don’t win big in 2010 this site may not matter or even exist by 2012.

]]> By: kingsmoothie http://bearingdrift.com/2010/07/27/new-candidates-for-gop-emerging-for-2012-thune-and-johnson/comment-page-1/#comment-43498 kingsmoothie Tue, 27 Jul 2010 22:20:40 +0000 http://bearingdrift.com/2010/07/27/new-candidates-for-gop-emerging-for-2012-thune-and-johnson/#comment-43498 Some of us social conservatives would be happy to leave both the legalization issue and the abortion issues to the states. This Johnson guy sounds promising. Some of us social conservatives would be happy to leave both the legalization issue and the abortion issues to the states. This Johnson guy sounds promising.

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