5th District Lynchburg Tea Party Nut Job Crosses the Line
By D.J. Spiker | Tuesday, March 23rd, 2010 | Policy, PoliticsI wish I had a ‘so stupid you can’t make it up’ category tonight.
A tea party organizer angry over Rep. Tom Perriello’s (D-Va.) vote in favor of health care reform published what he thought was the freshman member’s home address on a blog, in case any readers “want to drop by” and provide a “personal touch” to their views.
Rather than giving out Perriello’s address however, the tea party activist instead mistakenly printed the home address of the congressman’s brother. Perriello’s brother and wife have four children under the age of eight.
The post was written by a member of the Lynchburg Tea Party. When contacted by Politico and informed of the wrong information, the author said:
“If they would like to provide me with the address of Tom, then I’d be more than happy to take it down,” he said. “I have no reason to believe it’s not his house.”
Besides common sense you mean? Oh wait…
Troxel, a 2005 graduate of Liberty University, added “I was a journalism major in college, so I have every reason to believe my research is accurate.”
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Troxel found the address through a directory website…
Google search counts as authoritative research these days apparently.
Tea Party folks, it’s morons like this that continue to give you a bad name. Sending Perriello handcuffs in the mall due to his quote is an act of brilliance. Stupid stunts like posting the address of his brother, who has four small children? Then crediting your degree as a reason your research is sound?…Wow. If any of you know Mike Troxel smack him across the face and help him realize his stupidity. What an idiot.
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35 Responses to "5th District Lynchburg Tea Party Nut Job Crosses the Line"
Right on. This reminds me of how the Roanoke Times publicly posted, on their website, a list of Virginians who had received concealed-carry permits. Applying pressure by endangering your political opponents’ families is the technique of Fascists, not liberty-loving Americans.
That should have been the Roanoke Times published a “list of names AND ADDRESSES of Virginians who had received concealed-carry permits.”
On the internet.
Agreed, the TP is really an embarrassment to the GOP. This proves that there is chaos among the variations of the group. I know the heart of this group is good, but look, they need to have a concrete leader and not have everyone chiming in. The noise becomes unbearable.
If the GOP would lose the extremists and religious nutjobs, it might actually make inroads in policy. Until that day, I’ll continue to vote against it.
As if the left doesn’t have extremists and nutjobs. Sure.
I can’t stand hypocrites.
JR- How many embarassments like this, which are always explained by “they are nutjobs and extremists and don’t represent the movement,” have to occure in the Tea Party movement before it occurs to thoughtful conservatives that “YES, they DO represent the movement.”
How many embarassments like this…
You have to be smoking crack not to be embarrassed by a party lead by a man who attended a racist, hating church for 20 years and started his political career in a terrorist’s living room. Or a party
with a Congressional “rules” chairman who is a disbarred judge, and says he just “makes up” the rules as he goes along. Good grief.
If anyone is upset about Troxel’s actions, the best way to communicate this would be to drop by his home, or perhaps telephone his house
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there are nutjobs and extremists in both parties. Neither has any shortage.
Wow – another attack on the TEA party movement?
Hum, GOP activist D.J. Spiker really is desperate to discreddit true Conservatives that have make up trhe grwoing TEA Party Movement. True principaled citizens thaT HAVE AWOKEN and who now realized that the GOP is no longer the party it once was – and that the GOP needs to be abandoned just as its leadership abandoned the principles of the old Republican Party.
GOP leadership focus on one thing – gaining political power at any cost.
This latest attack on Bearing Drift is so predictable and simply another fairly pathetic attack on a group of predominately decent, hard working Conservative citizens that form the vast majority of the TEA Party. Bearing Drift should be ashamed of their smear campaign attacking Conservatives – in their efforts to try to support a failed Republican Party and it’s compromised politcal strategy that sells out principle in favor of money and the hope of continued political power by pandering to a “big tent”.
Hey, here’s a thought about winning elections – actually govern based on the GOP Party principles and watch the Conservatives in the TEA Party support GOP candidates!
Conservatives are done with being sold out by big government RINOs supported by the leaqdership of the GOP.
Lick: Conservative Arguement 101, professors Hannity, Beck and Limbaugh.
“When a Question is raised you doh’t want to answer, change the subject and attack, attack, attack.”
Conratulations, I see you got an A.
Very well, Steve. I now lump you in with Code Pink, Greenpeace, PETA, NARAL, NOW, SEIU, ACORN, etc.
We have the TEA Party.
Happy?
Reid – on BD, we have a variety of views and opinions. It’s called free speech. I don’t always agree with my contributors, nor they with mine, but I welcome their contributions.
However, I’m sure your opinion on oh-so-many issues (which I will not relate here because it would change the subect), would go over so well with the crowd of conservatives you purportedly speak for.
Spiker is merely saying there is a level of decorum we ought to strive for. Sending people to someone’s address is amateur hour.
No fair deleting the address info given in a previous comment…:P
He’s very findable online himself though you might want to hold off on the smacking unless you’re a big guy. According to google results he competes in MMA to some degree.
Just because someone may own a certain property does not mean they live there…ie. Rental Properties…what a cluster****.
Very well, Steve. I now lump you in with Code Pink, Greenpeace, PETA, NARAL, NOW, SEIU, ACORN
You forgot CAIR, DailyKos, MoveOn, and NAMBLA (not that there’s anything wrong with that).
Reid,
I’m right. You’re wrong.
In your haste to take offensive, you missed both the content and context of this article. It clearly takes ONE member of the tea party to task for actions that are contemptible. It also reminds the Tea Party at large that failing to condemn or attempting to justify contemptible actions like these (which you came perilously close to doing) darkens the Tea Party as a whole as well as sullies the perception about it as a whole. This article has nothing to do with the GOP, the Tea Party and/or philosophies regarding each. Your reaction was out of line, and as a Tea Party representative, I would expect you first and foremost to condemn stupidity like this.
Take heart Reid, that if you were to ever post Will Sessoms or Jim Wood or Randy Wright’s address for their views, I would call your actions contemptible and idiotic as well, as they would be. I would like to think that we could at least agree that encouraging people to visit their homes is horrendous.
J.R. & Lick-I see you took conservative arguement up to the 200 level.
J.R. – I’ll take NARAL, NOW and SEIU. Hell, ACORN too, I’m not sure wanting to help poor people is so bad, despite the couple of moron employees getting caught in the right wing sting.
Lick-I don’t even now what CAIR is, so I’m not claiming that one. DailyKos is a blog, like this one. there’s some good stuff published there and some bullshit, just like on Bearing Drift.
MoveOn-is sooooooo 2001.
NAMBLA- This I guess is what passes for GOP humor. Note: Liberal can’t do talk radio. Conservatives can’t do humor.
Where were you concern trolls last summer when Kenneth Gladney was beaten and called a “n*gger” by SEIU thugs? You know, SEIU, the union which gives massive support to the Democrats…
D.J.,
You should know better than to expect Reid to hold those he supports to the same standard that he tries to apply to those he opposes.
I went to trade school planning to get into the airline business (that’s a long story), which brings this startup vs. established carrier analogy to mind. An established carrier can have an incident, or even a crash, and survive it. On the other hand, Valujet put one DC-9 into the Everglades and it’s finished. The Republican Party is an established carrier, while the TEA Party is a startup.
What Reid overlooks is how the TEA Party is perceived outside the TEA Party. Behavior like Troxel’s only underlines the common perception of the TEA Party as fringe wack jobs. Instead, Greenmun resorts to his habitual indignation at anyone who calls to task a group he belongs to. Had someone posted the addresses of the TEA party leadership online, Reid would have been among the first to complain.
Lick: Probably the same place you are when the racist signs come out at EVERY Tea Party event.
I completely agree. The day may come where the people of the United States may have to walk up the steps of The Capitol and declare that the time has come for the Second American Revolution, but that revolution should stay away from the private homes of these representatives, as their families should not be dragged into this. And in the meantime, those who voted for that mess on Sunday will be held accountable come November. It may not seem like it is enough, but while many of the state level AGs are fighting the good fight, the next best thing we can do is show anyone who voted for it their spot in the unemployment line.
“Lick: Probably the same place you are when the racist signs come out at EVERY Tea Party event.” – Steve Vaughn
Steve, would you consider taking that back? I have been to 2 events and never saw such a sign at either. Would you consider admitting that only a miniscule portion of the Tea Party is representative of this horrible behavior? Don’t you think we could cherry pick Democrats in the same fashion? The right wing sometimes tries to paint Libertarians as NAMBLA lovers which is sheer idiocy and wrong. I just explain Libertarian philosophy and explain what a consenting adult is and then point out their GOP little man/boy lovers like Mark Foley. I’ve brought out the embarrassments to the GOP. Trust me, your Democrats have just as many skeletons. I would rather argue facts on issues, but if I need to catalog racist statements and actions by prominent Democrats, I will.
I can see that temperatures have risen again, so I won’t immediately hold that broad brush against you. Normally, I appreciated your perspective even though sometimes we differ. Lately, I admit I’ve been confused at how “out there” some of your comments have been. I was even thinking that maybe you’re paid for your opinion, but you’re likely just passionate with convictions as I am, and at times want to fire back at the other side.
There are quite a lot of people of color that attend and speak at Tea Party events. I have pictures to prove it. I’ve posted a link before and could do so again if needed. I just don’t think they would take too kindly to such racist signs.
To D.J., this is actually a fair posting on your part, technically. If Tea Partiers stand for freedom, we do need to publicly and privately condemn this type of behavior. It is important that we distinguish ourselves from the nutcakes that find their way into EVERY group.
In respect to this particular action, we have complained about the enforcers that the “good ‘ol boy network” sometimes employs. It is wrong for them to do it, and wrong in this case. Acts of intimidation/violence or racism are to be strongly condemned and the purveyors of same should be ostracized and punished according to any laws broken.
By condemning this behavior both publicly and privately, we seperate ourselves from these hateful elements. We thereby identify ourselves and put ourselves above ad hominem attacks from people without a worthwhile arguement. And clearly, if we don’t identify ourselves, those wishing to stifle the Tea Party movement will do that identification for us.
D.J., although is post is a fair one, I have to take it with a grain of salt coming from you. Your personal record with regard to the Tea Party has been less than objective. This very well could just be an opportunity for you. An opportunity to document a negative and attempt to damge all Tea Partiers with it. I hope not, but you have given plenty of reason to be suspicious. That said, and this post being a fair one, if you’re open to being objective and look at all the facets of the Tea Party rather than cherry pick the kooks(trying to hijack the movement for their own purposes), welcome aboard! I believe in redemption.
Britt — good, and thoughtful post, but Mr. Vaughn didn’t deserve it. I try always to respond to a poster at their level of respect and reasonability. This fellow is just out to smear and disrupt. His “argument” is mostly emptying his diaper onto the internet.
I was first out of the block to agree with this post. I’ve attended Tea Parties, and like you, listened to black SPEAKERS leading the groups. I’ve never heard a racist comment and would call someone down for it if I did.
But having worked among Leftists and “”Progressives” for most of my life, I know their tactics. And I’m fed up. Time to give no quarter and take the Fascists down.
First let’s remember a few things.
1. Tom Perriello must go.
2. We do not go after families.
3. We do not judge organizations based on the actions of one member. The TEA Parties, and the Lynchburg TEA party should not be judged by this wrong action of one of their members. We should judge the person. Go read some more of Troxel’s writings.
4. D.J. IMHO, you need to go and change the title of your post because it is unfair to all of the good people in the TEA Parties all over the 5th District.
5. Whoever posted the lie about the TEA Parties being racist needs to actually get to know the members and maybe should get to know Nigel Coleman, the head of the Danville TEA Party.
Tucker, the individual in question lives in the 5th District, and rather then pluralize anything in the title, it is Nut Job, singular. Originally the title was something different but could have been construed as attacking everyone in the tea party, so I changed it.
Your point on #3 is correct, and failing to judge the actions makes the group collectively look worse,
Tucker
1. Thanks in part to your leadership Tom Perriello is the Congressman.
2. I’ve personally seen you stick your finger in member’s of Perriello’s families faces and try to intimidate them (never mind Republican’s who disagree with you).
3. Almost every organization is judged by the actions of solitary members. ACORN, Blackwater, the SEIU, the Goode campaign etc.
4. The headline isn’t wrong. Mark Lloyd admits that “Troxel is a participant in the Lynchburg Tea Party.” His actions (and reasoning) are those of a nutjob.
5. If we aren’t supposed to judge groups by single members, then the existence of Nigel Coleman should not prove a group is not racist. I don’t believe the Danville TeaParty is racist, but i think Coleman calling the posting of Perriello’s brother’s address “collateral damage” and earlier calling for burning Perriello in effigy show he’s not a very good leader or public face for the Tea Party.
Britt,
You’re mistaken in my views of the Tea Party. I have repeatedly stated that I have respect and appreciation for 1) getting new people involved 2) letting our leaders know they are accountable for their actions, and 3) holding them accountable for their actions.
My problems with the Tea Party are more that when situations like the above occur, or with the birther and truther ‘movement’ there has been, in the past, little done to correct, minimize or condemn such actions. Thankfully, steps in the last few months have been taken to correct that. My largest problem, as I stated in my most recent post, is the idea that the Tea Party represents the saviors of conservatism, which they whole-heartedly do not. It’s as if everyone (figuratively) saw what happened in NY-23 (which made the entire party look bad) and said ‘WOW! We can do that too!’ So you have situations like VA-05, where Robert Hurt, who is by no means a perfect candidate but is not Dede Scozzafavva (sp?) Not to say everyone has to back Hurt, but he’s not a left wing masquerading as a Republican, he’s been a solid Republican for years.
My point being, if the Tea Party sticks to what they’re good at, holding leaders accountable, protesting and letting individuals know their actions are being watched, I’m all in favor and support it 100%. When the Tea Party gets into the business of ‘he’s not a conservative cause we say so’ which they have had ZERO success at thus far (not one ‘Tea Party’ candidate elected, NY-23, IL Gov, TX Gov, etc) then I’m against it. That’s what nominations are for, that’s what elections are for. The Tea Party does not get to deem and pass in their eyes who is a conservative and who isn’t.
I hope that makes sense.
http://www2.dailyprogress.com/
Authorities investigating a severed gas line at the Perriello home…
2 things…
1. For any Critics of Tucker Watkins. He’s the reason you even had a Republican Congressman from your district. He has a wealth of knowledge. You should shutup and learn from experience.
2. Whoever the nominee for your party is you vote for him or her. PERIOD! or you are not a member of the party you claim to be.
Ah, it’s the end of yet another great day. There’s an even larger rise in the polls today of those saying they support it. Fox is actually above 50% in an online poll.
Must be a bad day in this camp. Over 10 incidents of violence being threatened are being investigated by the FBI, along with the incident at Pierrello’s brothers house (check it out on Fox News if you’d like).
CNN is reporting that the Tea Party will become a “spoiler” party. I disagree. I predict that anyone who is remotely affiliated with these clowns will get what they ask for. Cut your ties and run, and run quickly.
The tea party is absolutely RUINING the GOP with everything over the past weekend and week… every day there is another embarrassment. You can break it down all you want but they are dragging you so down in the gutter it might be too late to break free. I honestly don’t know how y’all can stand it.
But then again, the more the GOP ties itself to (white) religion and self-righteousness, the less I care for you. Just my two cents, but a complete rewrite is in obviously order. If you were to stick to one issue that you were truly great at — say fiscal responsibility — then I might vote for your candidate.
So I’ll wait.
The Left thought the Tea Party would just go away a long time ago. After they realized that this was a long lasting movement, they changed strategies.
They are now attempting to isolate the Tea Party and find their “Kook” poster child to brand the entire movement with.
They’re doing the same to Cuccinelli. I’m heartend to see that Cuccinelli isn’t likely to get Jim Gilmore’d, since the party and Governor is standing behind him.
Why call the Tea Party racists? It is a lie, but ad hominem is too often effective. They just ignore all the pictures of minorities and lie about the Tea Party anyway. If you repeat the lie often enough……..
Furthermore, they are attempting to identify our movement to the public in that kind of negative light. Even if they successfully chase a few people of color from joining us, they have succeded to a degree. It also serves as a weapon to bludgeon the movement with. The Left tries to incite members to behave badly. I implore you not to give them that ammunition. If their victory was absolute and you were not a threat, they wouldn’t bother with these tactics.
But then, the GOP knows how this goes. jim Gilmore has felt it. Cuccinelli is getting it now. How long has the Republican Party been branded the party of racists? When the Republicans put people of color into positions of power and responsibility, well…….that doesn’t count because they’re “not black enough”….they’re just Uncle Toms. Secretary of State, secretary of Defense, head of the NSA, Sumpreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, Michael Steele heading the party, and the GOP are the party of racism?
Until President Obama, who did the Democrats offer? Mike Espy? Dept of Agriculture? Oh, and that high priest of that “White Religion” that Eng Esch speaks about…….Sen. KKK Byrd of West Virginia?
But that’s ok. Because Democrats are allowed to be ranking members of the KKK. That doesn’t make them racists…..and it wouldn’t be fair to label them all that way based on one individual. However, it is ok to brand the Tea Party on one idiot. See how this works?
You see the Democrat party is the party of intellectuals. They are so smart. That is why they ignore the issues, and just launch into ad hominem attack. They have no arguement. They are wrong on this healthcare legislation so they resort to the only thing they have. Politics of personal destruction.
To those in opposition to all this socialism being forced on us:
Just hold fast. Continue going to the rallies. Keep contacting your representatives. Support Cuccinelli and other fine officials fighting for our liberty in court. Support eachother. Use facts to defend your fellow freedom loving Americans. Network with other Tea Party or fiscally conservative groups. Encourage those protecting us in congress. Toss out the bums that sold us out. Elect conservatives regardless of party name. Suggest alternative legislative solutions and allow Democrats in on it. Remember that making things better is more powerful than just defeating the opposition. Act with informed decision making, not baiting from the other side. Control your own time table. Show forgiveness when you can and defend your position with all of the above when you must.
Britt
I did have a beef with religion only, and never raised an issue regarding racism. I did specifically point out “white” religion specifically, but meant Judaism, Christianity, etc and not the KKK — please don’t imply that at all.
Until the GOP distances itself (far) from religion and religious policies, I won’t be a fan. The air of self-righteousness to call someone a “baby killer” is unbearably absurd. And to me, the Tea Party has way too many of these Jesus nuts within it.
No one seems to remember, but Jesus was about as socialist a human being as you could name. He wasn’t armed to the teeth, or dismissive of the needy, the hungry, or the unhealthy.
That said, I’m just not a fan of any religion in politics, specifically Christianity but also Islamic, Hindu, etc. etc. etc.
1. The tea party is not racist, and saying so is ignorant use of playing the race card. In itself a racing thing to do… Period.
2. The GOP is out of touch and the tea party is not.
3. Parriello’s home address should be fair game for protest. He does not answer letters, phone calls, or requests for meetings.. This whole gas line thing smells like bull-@&$!. I have a hard time believing it is even true. Much like the false acusations of racist name calling in DC which is not supported by facts.
Like it or not the constitutional movement is here. It’s here with Ron Paul, with the 9-12 groups, with the tea parties. We are going to send snakes like parriello to the unemployment line shortly. GOP or no GOP… And the democrats can cry all they want, we could care less
Eng, You are wrong in many ways. I’ll just address one. Charitable giving and providing aid to the needy does not make one a socialist. Taking the property (including money) from one person to give to another is indicative of a socialist. Prove Jesus was a proponent of forcibly taking property from one person to give it to another before you call him a socialist.
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