House Endorses “Slaughter” Rule
By Steven Osborne | Thursday, March 18th, 2010 | Catch-All, PolicyHouse Democrats have successfully forced the slaughter rule upon the American people, whereby the Senate bill will not have to be voted on as per the Constitution. I am not surprised as the leadership of the Democratic party stopped following the Constitution a long time ago.
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Steven Osborne is a grassroots conservative activist from Central Virginia. He is currently furthering his education at Liberty University in Lynchburg, Virginia. In addition to writing for Bearing Drift he is also a columnist for the Christian Law Journal.
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Wow.
Disgusting. Unforgiveable. Un-American.
so its over. so why would Nancy want/need to bring the Senate bill to the floor now where her margin is much slimmer? golly, no one really needed to read all that stuff posted on the internet anyway. and why bother with a straight up & down vote as intimated (& probably presumed) by the Constitution.
i’m going outside & kill weeds.
Nye and Perriello voted with the GOP.
You’re absolutely right, Kelley…the bill passes regardless. Now is the time to go to DC.
Thank God! We can finally get this thing passed and move on to the next important issue. Leadership by the Dems… Who would have thought it possible.
I am going to be a Lawyer when I grow up, as the lawsuits are already proliferating and Lawyers are going to be the only ones benefiting as a result of ObamaCare.
I have talked to several doctor friends who have said that they are going to change professions and start law school if this Obamanation passes.
You better find a better career. By the time you finish law school, we’ll have the tort reform inplace so you’ll find it harder to sue or make money in the health care law field. After all, isn’t that what the GOP has been pushing? Honestly, I’d support forcing lawyers to get a minimum % in each case so the plantiff can have maximum award to assist with thier life and necessary care.
I have never witnessed such opposition to deficit reduction in my life, and I sure did not expect to find most of those opponents on this forum.
You could also reduce the deficit by raising taxes 40%. I doubt you’d find many of us happy about that either.
It’s not THAT the deficit may be reduced; it’s HOW the deficit may be reduced.
You’d think a smarty Dem like you would understand that nuance. Huh.
WB, this has nothing to do with Tort Reform, this is Constitutional Law with the States suing the Federal Government mandating Federal health care as a Constitutional breach of states rights. Not to mention all of the other lawsuits that will spin off as the result of groups, companies, organizations, foreign governments, US Territories and others about the legality of forcing individual citizens and businesses to pay premiums to the Federal Government.
Tort Reform will never happen because the Trial Lawyers are on the Democrat “Pay to Play” plan, otherwise reform would have been a part of this bill.
As our system continues to come apart, visions which we are seeing of Greece as a result of people’s pensions being cut, money becoming worthless, prices skyrocketing and our debt forcing “Transformative Change” on us will be a part of the nightly news broadcasts filled with political pabulum consumed by those who are terrified of our Government and supporters with minds full of mush.
In all due respect, if a doctor makes a mess of things, he and/or his insurance company ought to have some liability, same as a lawyer, a mechanic, or any other provider of a service. Most states control the amount of awards, ensuring that justice can be served, but limited to the circumstances of the particular case. This tort reform issue is simply another straw man that is part of the political tactics of obstructionism to prevent health care reform.
Mike, like I said, Tort Reform won’t happen because Trial lawyers are in the political pockets of the Democrats. So lawsuits can continue to run amuck against doctors, insurance companies and others in the name of social justice. The only way to get rich in our new “transformational” economy is to be a plaintiff who sues or become a defense lawyer or prosecutor.
I have proudly served my country, my son is now in the military proudly serving his country. Is this what our brave men and women died for? I thought we had a constitution where there were checks and balances. Where we knew that who we elected would be allowed to represent us and be allowed to do their job. I am speechless.
Does anyone, even Mike Barrett, actually believe that COngress will reduce Medicare spending by $500 Million? Congress has never voted for such reductions. There is no way Congress will vote to reduce payments to doctors and hospitals. It just won’t happen.
A political cartoon: Pelosi, Reid, lobbyists and special interests each with ropes tied around the necks of congressional members who are leading 40 million uninsured who are leading the rest of us off the fiscal cliff. We all die.
In the mean time, Chinese will be a mandatory language requirement in Law School as we will need lawyers to represent us as the Chinese repossess this country for debt at pennies on the yen.
Government-run Medicare is bankrupt. Government-run Social Security is bankrupt. Government-run health care will…reduce the deficit.
These protestations of doomsday, the end of America as we know it, government take over of health care, have worked for some citizens, but as they increase in intensity, just reveal a sense of paranoia, fear, and anxiety that decreases in effect with time. Fact is, this reform is simply that; another step toward universal access to health care, and from the documented health effects of past steps, this one will be very positive as well. So frankly, from a political perspective, please keep up this policy of irrational obstructionism, because from this point on, it will work to the benefit of the President in the next election cycle.
Kind of like your doomsday talk about transportation, Mike.
Well of course, Brian, there is one big difference and that is that I and others have been proven to be correct. Even the Governor agrees with our diagnosis of the problem and our assessment of the condition of our transportation system. And if these pages are to be believed, he will call a special session to deal with this issue. So once again, thanks for the softball.
Mike, everyone concedes the health care problem. It’s your solutions, on health care and transportation, that an overwhelming majority of people consistently oppose.
From “We Were Waist Deep in the Big Muddy and the Big Fool said to push on.”
Well, I’m not going to point any moral;
I’ll leave that for yourself
Maybe you’re still walking, you’re still talking
You’d like to keep your health.
But every time I read the papers
That old feeling comes on;
We’re — waist deep in the Big Muddy
And the big fool says to push on.
No Brian, I don’t think so. The opponents of health care reform had eight years to deal with the issue, and apparently they thought so little of it that it never rose to the level of action, except of course, to extend a trillion dollar increase in MediCare benefits without paying for it to help insure reelection. In this case instead, the majority is taking a responsive and fiscally responsible path; that is, they are improving access to health care for americans and they are paying for it. Now, for the analogous situation of transportation in Virginia, McDonnell admits the problem, he just refuses for pay for the solution. That’s the difference.
@Mike @Wayne If the federal Government stopped taking $2,000 in taxes or more a month from my paychecks from my 2 jobs, I would have more then enough money to pay for my own health care, but then again liberals like you like spending other peoples money, instead of giving people the ability to take care of themselves.
Mike, how many years did you, Kaine and Warner have to deal with transportation? Wow. The same eight years you cite. Apparently they thought so little of transportation, they did little to solve that.
Nice try Brian, but as you well know, yet chose to ignore, is that for that decade, the man in charge was the Speaker of the House, Bill Howell, and his intractable opposition to the taxes and fees necessary to prevent the slow and insidious destruction of a once proud and functioning transportation system, much less improve it, is well known. He and McDonnell were actually supportive of the expenditures to fix the system, but insisted that others (local government) actually vote for the tax increases. To me, this reveals the true character of the representatives involved; that is, they recognize the problem and its undeniable importance to the Commonwealth, yet they lack the political courage and will to advocate for the solution.
Gee, Mike… I asked if you had read the Health Care bill, and based on what I had found about the IRS that I described in a previous post, guess what? Big news today that the IRS is going to be expanded significantly as the hammer to enforce this bill. Read this and then look in the mirror to see a “clueless” look….
http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-money/domestic-taxes/87697-republicans-assail-irs-provision-in-health-care-bill-
Subcommittee on Oversight ranking member Charles Boustany (R-La.) said the IRS provision in the bill “dangerously expands, in an ominous way the tentacles of the IRS and it’s reach into every American family,” he said today during a press conference.
“This is a vast expanse of power,” he said.
Boustany said the bill would allow the IRS to confiscate refunds if there are penalties for not buying health care.
Another cost that wasn’t factored into the CBO score for health care –
“Assuming it becomes law, the Congressional Budget Office expects the IRS will need roughly $10 billion over the next 10 years and nearly 17,000 new employees to meet its new responsibilities under health reform.”
Translation; if you have a new requirement you need to pay for enforcement of that requirement. What is new and different about that? We require firms to have a business license, to pay into social security, to pay their corporate income taxes, and we have enforcement mechanisms to ensure compliance. But Tim J, what is really scary are the posts to the web site you posted. Those guys are nuts!
Mike, you are incorrect. The Speaker of the House has not been Speaker for a decade. Nice try, though. Check your facts before you write next time.
They aren’t nuts Mike, you are clueless…
Yes Brian, you are correct. Let me restate my post. Nice try Brian, but as you well know, yet chose to ignore, is that for the last eight years, the man in charge was the Speaker of the House, Bill Howell, and his intractable opposition to the taxes and fees necessary to prevent the slow and insidious destruction of a once proud and functioning transportation system, much less improve it, is well known. He and McDonnell were actually supportive of the expenditures to fix the system, but insisted that others (local government) actually vote for the tax increases. To me, this reveals the true character of the representatives involved; that is, they recognize the problem and its undeniable importance to the Commonwealth, yet they lack the political courage and will to advocate for the solution.
Let’s be sure to hold our 2 senators that could have saved us with a cloture vote responsible.
Too little too late for Perriello. I do appreciate Nye’s continual support of his constituents.
Thanks Britt for that reminder. So, when will Cuchinelli sue the U.S. Government for the minority in the Senate thwarting the will of the majority?
“minority in the Senate thwarting the will of the majority?”… who are these guys supposed to be working for, the party or the people?
I have to admit the troll did an excellent job of hijacking a thread which was meant to spotlight the Dems’ slight to the Constitution. Well played, sir.
Kathy Mateer — the men and women who’ve betrayed your son are going to reap what they’ve sown, mam. And very soon.
“Five health insurers raise rates in Virginia” screams the headline in Inside Business. Rates in Virginia to go up an average of 14%. Prudential wanted 50% but was only approved for 20%. And the majority of this forum really supports the status quo? What world are you living in? Yes, that’s right, the world of McMansions, homes on the waterfront, corporate provided cadillac plans, and cell phones with the Governor’s number entered for easy use. At least most have learned how to use the scanner at the supermarket.
“And the majority of this forum really supports the status quo? What world are you living in?”… status quo is when people had jobs instead jobs being used as one of the reasons to force a Federal health care police state on us.
Your friendly IRS agent will be glad to show you his/her new riot shotgun (procured under TIRWR-10-Q-00023, https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=f3544f8e4cfdbbf01cfaba5201919a8d&tab=core&_cview=1 ) as they come to take you or your business away for not paying health care taxes.
You’re welcome, Mike, but what are speaking of? The bill is effectively going to pass.
The majority are opposed to the alleged healthcare bill, anyway. That is why they had to resort to “deem and pass” to try to avoid putting their necks on the line with voters. If the majority wanted this crap, there would have been smooth sailing and procedural trickery wouldn’t have been needed. I don’t know that Virginians will ever be willing to elect a Democrat again just because the Republican said, “Macaca”. It just isn’t worth it.
Forcing someone to buy health insurance will be actionable. Soon to be law in Virginia, this will also be a states rights showdown.
If the language passed by the House is not the same as in the Senate, that will be actionable, Deem and Pass or not.
Then there will be Senators Warner and Webb that will face the voters at the polls. You know, the ones Deem to Pass was used to try to camouflage the representatives that stabbed us in the back.
This isn’t over. Even after it becomes law, it isn’t over. 34 states and aggressive Republican leaders in Virginia, make that perfectly clear.
It will be up to us to support McDonnell, Cuccinelli, and Marshall. Glenn Nye also deserves credit for continually voting against this dangerous legislation.
Also interesting to note is that the Department of Education is also purchasing Remington Shotguns to augment their “existing shotgun inventory” that will be delivered on Monday 22 March.
https://www.fbo.gov/index?&s=opportunity&mode=form&id=cb68cf9f3fa2fe18a83d1c3dee0039b2&tab=core&tabmode=list
Who are they going to educate… terrorists?… or are our schools really getting that bad?
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