Comments on: Top 10 Virginia political stories of the decade http://bearingdrift.com/2009/12/28/top-10-virginia-political-stories-of-the-decade/ Mon, 13 Feb 2012 11:38:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: The One Where We Return to the Blog http://bearingdrift.com/2009/12/28/top-10-virginia-political-stories-of-the-decade/#comment-24839 The One Where We Return to the Blog Thu, 31 Dec 2009 22:32:43 +0000 http://bearingdrift.com/?p=10531#comment-24839 [...] at Bearing Drift, J.R. Hoeft offers:  Top 10 Virginia political stories of the decade, and Ward Smythe gives us The Top 10 Farces of [...] [...] at Bearing Drift, J.R. Hoeft offers:  Top 10 Virginia political stories of the decade, and Ward Smythe gives us The Top 10 Farces of [...]

]]> By: Not Tim Murtaugh http://bearingdrift.com/2009/12/28/top-10-virginia-political-stories-of-the-decade/#comment-24757 Not Tim Murtaugh Wed, 30 Dec 2009 20:00:37 +0000 http://bearingdrift.com/?p=10531#comment-24757 Sure, but...this is an important regional blog, with statewide aspirations (lind of like Ken Stolle when you think about it). I think a regional Top 10 list is in order... Sure, but…this is an important regional blog, with statewide aspirations (lind of like Ken Stolle when you think about it). I think a regional Top 10 list is in order…

]]> By: JR Hoeft http://bearingdrift.com/2009/12/28/top-10-virginia-political-stories-of-the-decade/#comment-24703 JR Hoeft Tue, 29 Dec 2009 23:28:28 +0000 http://bearingdrift.com/?p=10531#comment-24703 NTM - gone, but not forgotten. There also was that little Phil Kellam story that this blog was associated with. I just didn't consider them Virginia-wide political stories. NTM – gone, but not forgotten. There also was that little Phil Kellam story that this blog was associated with. I just didn’t consider them Virginia-wide political stories.

]]> By: Not Tim Murtaugh http://bearingdrift.com/2009/12/28/top-10-virginia-political-stories-of-the-decade/#comment-24698 Not Tim Murtaugh Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:01:38 +0000 http://bearingdrift.com/?p=10531#comment-24698 How the hell did you forget Schrock? "Congressman for life" turns into well, a disappearing act worthy of Houdini. How the hell did you forget Schrock? “Congressman for life” turns into well, a disappearing act worthy of Houdini.

]]> By: Steve Vaughan http://bearingdrift.com/2009/12/28/top-10-virginia-political-stories-of-the-decade/#comment-24684 Steve Vaughan Tue, 29 Dec 2009 18:49:48 +0000 http://bearingdrift.com/?p=10531#comment-24684 Dr. Cathy, Point out the members of the Taliban wing of the House Democratic Caucus. I can think of a couple of candidates. But the difference is that they are backbenchers with little influence. Not the same in the RHC, which has largely purged it's moderates. In contrast, Ward Armstrong the Dem leader in the House is a fairly conservative Dem. I don't dispute that the Dem caucus COULD be ideologically driven. it's just not now. I know from experience it's actually hard to get Dems to do partisan stuff. It's why they suck when they are in the minority. The Republicans are greats at the task of the minority party, which is basically shouting "no" and laying blame. Dr. Cathy,
Point out the members of the Taliban wing of the House Democratic Caucus. I can think of a couple of candidates. But the difference is that they are backbenchers with little influence. Not the same in the RHC, which has largely purged it’s moderates. In contrast, Ward Armstrong the Dem leader in the House is a fairly conservative Dem. I don’t dispute that the Dem caucus COULD be ideologically driven. it’s just not now. I know from experience it’s actually hard to get Dems to do partisan stuff. It’s why they suck when they are in the minority. The Republicans are greats at the task of the minority party, which is basically shouting “no” and laying blame.

]]> By: dr_cathy http://bearingdrift.com/2009/12/28/top-10-virginia-political-stories-of-the-decade/#comment-24675 dr_cathy Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:37:49 +0000 http://bearingdrift.com/?p=10531#comment-24675 Steve V - never, in my wildest dreams, could I have imagined your complimenting Del Marshall for being one of the brightest minds in the Republican House Caucus. But you did and it's in writing! Wow! You are right, the libs wouldn't dare claim you. That said, I take issue with your comment regarding the RHC being ideologically rather than factually driven while not stating the same about the DHC. Both have their idealogues who hold sway within their respective caucuses. It's just that you embrace the D ideology over the R. But to only pin the R with idealogues is quite a false declaration. #3 btw may have been the largest tax increase in Virginia's history and it may have split the RHC, but the manner in which the tax increase was divised one hardly felt the pain. Moreover, the dollars raised were not spent willy nilly but instead fortified our public safety programs, provided medicaid/medicare match, upgraded sewage treatment plants, added dollars to k - 16 to name a few of the services in which Virginian's benefited. Steve V – never, in my wildest dreams, could I have imagined your complimenting Del Marshall for being one of the brightest minds in the Republican House Caucus. But you did and it’s in writing! Wow! You are right, the libs wouldn’t dare claim you.

That said, I take issue with your comment regarding the RHC being ideologically rather than factually driven while not stating the same about the DHC. Both have their idealogues who hold sway within their respective caucuses. It’s just that you embrace the D ideology over the R. But to only pin the R with idealogues is quite a false declaration.

#3 btw may have been the largest tax increase in Virginia’s history and it may have split the RHC, but the manner in which the tax increase was divised one hardly felt the pain. Moreover, the dollars raised were not spent willy nilly but instead fortified our public safety programs, provided medicaid/medicare match, upgraded sewage treatment plants, added dollars to k – 16 to name a few of the services in which Virginian’s benefited.

]]> By: Steve Vaughan http://bearingdrift.com/2009/12/28/top-10-virginia-political-stories-of-the-decade/#comment-24673 Steve Vaughan Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:16:10 +0000 http://bearingdrift.com/?p=10531#comment-24673 Lee: I agree. I think a lot of legislators, on both sides of the aisle, KNEW the bill was unconstitutional, but were willing to turn their eyes from that fact if they could get out of the deadend on transportation that they'd talked themselves into. To his credit, Bob Marshall was not willing to avert his eyes. Bob, when not discussing reproductive issues or anything having to do with human sexuality, is one of the General Assembly's better minds. He certainly knows the rules of the House better than any other delegate. Lee:
I agree. I think a lot of legislators, on both sides of the aisle, KNEW the bill was unconstitutional, but were willing to turn their eyes from that fact if they could get out of the deadend on transportation that they’d talked themselves into. To his credit, Bob Marshall was not willing to avert his eyes. Bob, when not discussing reproductive issues or anything having to do with human sexuality, is one of the General Assembly’s better minds. He certainly knows the rules of the House better than any other delegate.

]]> By: Lee Talley http://bearingdrift.com/2009/12/28/top-10-virginia-political-stories-of-the-decade/#comment-24648 Lee Talley Tue, 29 Dec 2009 04:05:39 +0000 http://bearingdrift.com/?p=10531#comment-24648 You know here's a first. I have to agree with Steve on that one. (Yes it is a sign of the end times...) but Del Marshall knew his stuff on how crap that bill was. You know here’s a first. I have to agree with Steve on that one. (Yes it is a sign of the end times…) but Del Marshall knew his stuff on how crap that bill was.

]]> By: Steve Waters http://bearingdrift.com/2009/12/28/top-10-virginia-political-stories-of-the-decade/#comment-24641 Steve Waters Tue, 29 Dec 2009 02:06:23 +0000 http://bearingdrift.com/?p=10531#comment-24641 Jim, In all fairness, go back and check HB3202, I know nobody wants to admit it but the unconstitutionality of the bill was figured in way before it went to Governor Kaine. We have to be able to admit our own faults as a party if we want to blame the other one. Delegate Bob Marshall was claiming the bill was unconstitutional ways before it went to Kaine and while it was still in the House. Steve Jim,

In all fairness, go back and check HB3202, I know nobody wants to admit it but the unconstitutionality of the bill was figured in way before it went to Governor Kaine. We have to be able to admit our own faults as a party if we want to blame the other one. Delegate Bob Marshall was claiming the bill was unconstitutional ways before it went to Kaine and while it was still in the House.

Steve

]]> By: Steve Vaughan http://bearingdrift.com/2009/12/28/top-10-virginia-political-stories-of-the-decade/#comment-24612 Steve Vaughan Mon, 28 Dec 2009 16:58:27 +0000 http://bearingdrift.com/?p=10531#comment-24612 Steven: I think if you ask people who actually ARE liberals, they wouldn't claim me. That's a pretty accurate summary of the some in the House GOP Caucus...they don't need facts, they've got an ideology. Steven:
I think if you ask people who actually ARE liberals, they wouldn’t claim me.
That’s a pretty accurate summary of the some in the House GOP Caucus…they don’t need facts, they’ve got an ideology.

]]> By: Steven Osborne http://bearingdrift.com/2009/12/28/top-10-virginia-political-stories-of-the-decade/#comment-24609 Steven Osborne Mon, 28 Dec 2009 16:38:20 +0000 http://bearingdrift.com/?p=10531#comment-24609 Steve, "The jihadist wing of the GOP Caucus in the House gets to take a little credit for that." Just when I thought that liberals couldn't get more vindictive... Steve,

“The jihadist wing of the GOP Caucus in the House gets to take a little credit for that.”

Just when I thought that liberals couldn’t get more vindictive…

]]> By: Freddie http://bearingdrift.com/2009/12/28/top-10-virginia-political-stories-of-the-decade/#comment-24605 Freddie Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:17:44 +0000 http://bearingdrift.com/?p=10531#comment-24605 "4. Death penalty ads in 2005." Deeds made the same error Kilgore did. They both attacked their opponent on a marginal issue while not offering much of a positive program. “4. Death penalty ads in 2005.”

Deeds made the same error Kilgore did. They both attacked their opponent on a marginal issue while not offering much of a positive program.

]]> By: Freddie http://bearingdrift.com/2009/12/28/top-10-virginia-political-stories-of-the-decade/#comment-24604 Freddie Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:17:05 +0000 http://bearingdrift.com/?p=10531#comment-24604 "3. Largest tax increase in Virginia history" Governor Warner spent his political capital on this new revenue which was piddled away. It did not apply to the one major state level program that was underfunded: roads. He then tried to have a new tax increase for transportation, but two major tax increases in a short period of time did not fly. Much of these new taxes would have been diverted from roads to mass transit, bike trails, and other such things anyway. “3. Largest tax increase in Virginia history”

Governor Warner spent his political capital on this new revenue which was piddled away. It did not apply to the one major state level program that was underfunded: roads.

He then tried to have a new tax increase for transportation, but two major tax increases in a short period of time did not fly. Much of these new taxes would have been diverted from roads to mass transit, bike trails, and other such things anyway.

]]> By: Steve Vaughan http://bearingdrift.com/2009/12/28/top-10-virginia-political-stories-of-the-decade/#comment-24603 Steve Vaughan Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:12:38 +0000 http://bearingdrift.com/?p=10531#comment-24603 Okay, pretty good list. #8-You need to give Jim Gilmore, whose "my way or the highway style" alientated as many Republicans as Democrats in the legislature, more credit for this. #10-Actually gridlock in the General Assembly precedes the Demcoratic takeover in the Senate -- see #8. The jihadist wing of the GOP Caucus in the House gets to take a little credit for that. Okay, pretty good list.
#8-You need to give Jim Gilmore, whose “my way or the highway style” alientated as many Republicans as Democrats in the legislature, more credit for this.
#10-Actually gridlock in the General Assembly precedes the Demcoratic takeover in the Senate — see #8. The jihadist wing of the GOP Caucus in the House gets to take a little credit for that.

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