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	<title>Comments on: Webb and Warner vote for cloture on healthcare</title>
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		<title>By: Govgirl</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/12/21/webb-and-warner-vote-for-cloture-on-healthcare/#comment-24318</link>
		<dc:creator>Govgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 21:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about McDonnell for Senate 2014 - any takers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about McDonnell for Senate 2014 &#8211; any takers?</p>
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		<title>By: kelley in virginia</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/12/21/webb-and-warner-vote-for-cloture-on-healthcare/#comment-24308</link>
		<dc:creator>kelley in virginia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 19:20:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark Warner knows that Virginia has to pony up this Medicaid money because he is a former governor.  And he voted for this bill anyway.  This obamacare bill will really strap Virginia.  McDonnell &amp; every member of our legislature, whether they be R or D, should be screaming at the top of their lungs at how Warner &amp; Webb betrayed our Commonwealth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark Warner knows that Virginia has to pony up this Medicaid money because he is a former governor.  And he voted for this bill anyway.  This obamacare bill will really strap Virginia.  McDonnell &amp; every member of our legislature, whether they be R or D, should be screaming at the top of their lungs at how Warner &amp; Webb betrayed our Commonwealth.</p>
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		<title>By: J.R. Hoeft</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/12/21/webb-and-warner-vote-for-cloture-on-healthcare/#comment-24281</link>
		<dc:creator>J.R. Hoeft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 16:33:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, Stevie, I was hoping you&#039;d say that because I still wanted to discuss why this bill sucks.  Perhaps &lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.heritage.org/2009/12/21/morning-bell-the-health-care-fight-has-just-begun&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Heritage says it best&lt;/a&gt;:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Busts the Federal Budget: According to the Congressional Budget Office (CBO), the amended Reid plan would reduce the federal budget deficit by $132 billion over the period 2010 to 2019, but that is a mirage. The CBO can only score what the Senate tells them they will do, not what everyone knows they actually will do. For example, the Senate bill cuts Medicare fees for doctors by 20% starting in 2011. Nobody believes these cuts will be allowed to happen. By changing just that provision, Obamacare ends up adding $196 billion to the deficit in the first 10 years and $765 billion in the second decade.

Busts State Budgets: According to The Fiscal Survey of States, 31 states cut higher education and 26 states cut K-12 education in 2009. This is because Medicaid and education are almost always any states two highest budget items, and states cannot touch the entitlement to Medicaid. Obamacare only increases state Medicaid obligations thus further bankrupting states. This is why Sen. Nelson demanded a permanent Medicaid bailout for Nebraska in exchange for his vote. Other states like Hawaii, Vermont, and Massachusetts also won key federal bailouts for their health programs. Who are the losers? All the other that are forced to pick up the $1 billion tab.

Increases Health Care Costs: Throughout the health care debate, President Obama promised reform that would &quot;bend the cost curve down&quot; on health care spending. But according to the President&#039;s own the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMMS) the Senate does exactly the opposite, actually driving health care costs up by adding $234 billion to national health expenditures.

Endangers Americans Quality of Care: President Obama used to promise that &quot;If you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan.&quot; But as the CBO confirmed this month 10 million Americans will be forced out of their current health insurance plan should Obamacare become law. Even worse, CMMS has reported that Obamacare&#039;s $493 billion in Medicare cuts could force as many as one-in-five health care providers into insolvency thus forcing them out of the Medicare program.

Forces Americans to Pay for Abortions: Despite the inclusion of the Nelson amendment, when the federal government&#039;s role over the financing and delivery of health care grows, as it does under this bill, a requirement to segregate premiums that cover abortion services would be merely cosmetic in practice.

$400 Billion in New Taxes: From taxes on employment to taxes on tanning beds, Obamacare is funded with over $400 billion in new taxes at a time of double digit unemployment, including $29 billion in taxes on 19 million Americans who still will not receive any health insurance.

A &quot;Starter Home&quot; for Government Run Health Care: While technically not a public option, this scheme will have the same results. By giving unprecedented power and authority to the Director of Office of Personal Management, the multi-state plans created in the bill will simply become the government plan. Single payer advocate Sen. Tom Harkin (D-IA) is even calling the bill a &quot;starter home&quot; for further reform.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, Stevie, I was hoping you&#8217;d say that because I still wanted to discuss why this bill sucks.  Perhaps <a href="http://blog.heritage.org/2009/12/21/morning-bell-the-health-care-fight-has-just-begun" rel="nofollow">Heritage says it best</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Busts the Federal Budget: According to the Congressional Budget Office (CBO), the amended Reid plan would reduce the federal budget deficit by $132 billion over the period 2010 to 2019, but that is a mirage. The CBO can only score what the Senate tells them they will do, not what everyone knows they actually will do. For example, the Senate bill cuts Medicare fees for doctors by 20% starting in 2011. Nobody believes these cuts will be allowed to happen. By changing just that provision, Obamacare ends up adding $196 billion to the deficit in the first 10 years and $765 billion in the second decade.</p>
<p>Busts State Budgets: According to The Fiscal Survey of States, 31 states cut higher education and 26 states cut K-12 education in 2009. This is because Medicaid and education are almost always any states two highest budget items, and states cannot touch the entitlement to Medicaid. Obamacare only increases state Medicaid obligations thus further bankrupting states. This is why Sen. Nelson demanded a permanent Medicaid bailout for Nebraska in exchange for his vote. Other states like Hawaii, Vermont, and Massachusetts also won key federal bailouts for their health programs. Who are the losers? All the other that are forced to pick up the $1 billion tab.</p>
<p>Increases Health Care Costs: Throughout the health care debate, President Obama promised reform that would &#8220;bend the cost curve down&#8221; on health care spending. But according to the President&#8217;s own the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMMS) the Senate does exactly the opposite, actually driving health care costs up by adding $234 billion to national health expenditures.</p>
<p>Endangers Americans Quality of Care: President Obama used to promise that &#8220;If you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan.&#8221; But as the CBO confirmed this month 10 million Americans will be forced out of their current health insurance plan should Obamacare become law. Even worse, CMMS has reported that Obamacare&#8217;s $493 billion in Medicare cuts could force as many as one-in-five health care providers into insolvency thus forcing them out of the Medicare program.</p>
<p>Forces Americans to Pay for Abortions: Despite the inclusion of the Nelson amendment, when the federal government&#8217;s role over the financing and delivery of health care grows, as it does under this bill, a requirement to segregate premiums that cover abortion services would be merely cosmetic in practice.</p>
<p>$400 Billion in New Taxes: From taxes on employment to taxes on tanning beds, Obamacare is funded with over $400 billion in new taxes at a time of double digit unemployment, including $29 billion in taxes on 19 million Americans who still will not receive any health insurance.</p>
<p>A &#8220;Starter Home&#8221; for Government Run Health Care: While technically not a public option, this scheme will have the same results. By giving unprecedented power and authority to the Director of Office of Personal Management, the multi-state plans created in the bill will simply become the government plan. Single payer advocate Sen. Tom Harkin (D-IA) is even calling the bill a &#8220;starter home&#8221; for further reform.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Steve Vaughan</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/12/21/webb-and-warner-vote-for-cloture-on-healthcare/#comment-24280</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Vaughan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 16:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know why Republican are still  up in arms about this.
Everything good has been stripped out of this bill already.
There&#039;s nothing in it but give aways to the insurance industry. And, of course, Republicans believe that give aways to big corporations are the only legitimate function of government anyway....so what&#039;s the problem?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know why Republican are still  up in arms about this.<br />
Everything good has been stripped out of this bill already.<br />
There&#8217;s nothing in it but give aways to the insurance industry. And, of course, Republicans believe that give aways to big corporations are the only legitimate function of government anyway&#8230;.so what&#8217;s the problem?</p>
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		<title>By: Govgirl</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/12/21/webb-and-warner-vote-for-cloture-on-healthcare/#comment-24279</link>
		<dc:creator>Govgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 16:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess they both want to be one term Senators - obviously they did not learn the lessons of the 2009 election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess they both want to be one term Senators &#8211; obviously they did not learn the lessons of the 2009 election.</p>
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		<title>By: JR Hoeft</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/12/21/webb-and-warner-vote-for-cloture-on-healthcare/#comment-24278</link>
		<dc:creator>JR Hoeft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 14:48:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just read in the WSJ of &lt;a href=&quot;http://online.wsj.com/article/SB126136074142099613.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;another way Virginia specifically will get screwed&lt;/a&gt; by this legislation.

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;...the exemption [for nonprofit insurance companies] would unfairly tax some states, such as Virginia, where primarily for-profit plans operate.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Thanks, Webb and Warner!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just read in the WSJ of <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB126136074142099613.html" rel="nofollow">another way Virginia specifically will get screwed</a> by this legislation.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;&#8230;the exemption [for nonprofit insurance companies] would unfairly tax some states, such as Virginia, where primarily for-profit plans operate.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Thanks, Webb and Warner!</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Kirwin</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/12/21/webb-and-warner-vote-for-cloture-on-healthcare/#comment-24272</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Kirwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 13:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doesn&#039;t seem like it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doesn&#8217;t seem like it.</p>
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		<title>By: kelley in virginia</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/12/21/webb-and-warner-vote-for-cloture-on-healthcare/#comment-24271</link>
		<dc:creator>kelley in virginia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 13:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Were either Warner or Webb smart enough to get some great bribe for Virginia?  I mean, if you are going to destroy our country, you might as well get something for it, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Were either Warner or Webb smart enough to get some great bribe for Virginia?  I mean, if you are going to destroy our country, you might as well get something for it, right?</p>
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