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	<title>Comments on: 8th Senate District GOP primary may go nasty &#8211; and quick</title>
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		<title>By: FamilyFoundationBlog.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Virginia News Stand: November 23, 2009</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/11/20/8th-senate-district-gop-primary-may-go-nasty-and-quick/#comment-23006</link>
		<dc:creator>FamilyFoundationBlog.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Virginia News Stand: November 23, 2009</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 23:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 8th Senate District GOP primary may go nasty — and quick (BearingDrift.com) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/11/20/8th-senate-district-gop-primary-may-go-nasty-and-quick/#comment-22932</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://hamptonroads.com/2009/11/health-care-divides-senate-hopefuls-gop-forum

Now the press is &quot;boring us with poorly written fiction&quot; apparently, wake up! McWaters is an oportunistic &quot;Republican&quot; and thinks he can buy this race, and a chauvinistic bum to boot. We&#039;ve all been saying the same thing from day one. Now when will the true Republicans stand up?

I didn&#039;t even mention how unversed on transportation he is. Good work Jeff, I pity this district if you win this thing.</description>
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<p>Now the press is &#8220;boring us with poorly written fiction&#8221; apparently, wake up! McWaters is an oportunistic &#8220;Republican&#8221; and thinks he can buy this race, and a chauvinistic bum to boot. We&#8217;ve all been saying the same thing from day one. Now when will the true Republicans stand up?</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t even mention how unversed on transportation he is. Good work Jeff, I pity this district if you win this thing.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/11/20/8th-senate-district-gop-primary-may-go-nasty-and-quick/#comment-22917</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 04:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone know why it was decided to hold the party canvass on the same day as the RPV Advance?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone know why it was decided to hold the party canvass on the same day as the RPV Advance?</p>
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		<title>By: Wally Erb</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/11/20/8th-senate-district-gop-primary-may-go-nasty-and-quick/#comment-22912</link>
		<dc:creator>Wally Erb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s interesting to read the back and forth banter on this upcoming firehouse, when it isn&#039;t even on the voter&#039;s radar.  Considering that most believe the election was held last week and the malls are now packed with holiday shoppers on the weekends it will be a wonder if many will show up at the five (where is that?) locations. Passing out fliers at the Republican breakfast may have reached possibly 20 eligible 8th district voters. There is so much on people&#039;s mind currently, it will be a wonder even if they remember to show up on a Saturday in December between the hours of 10 and 3.
All and all, Rosemary Wilson has shaken the hand of many a city employee and teacher over the years and has the greater name recognition of those most likely to show up, on December 5th. Unless Jeff can get those 17,000 jobs he created to the polls, he&#039;s toast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s interesting to read the back and forth banter on this upcoming firehouse, when it isn&#8217;t even on the voter&#8217;s radar.  Considering that most believe the election was held last week and the malls are now packed with holiday shoppers on the weekends it will be a wonder if many will show up at the five (where is that?) locations. Passing out fliers at the Republican breakfast may have reached possibly 20 eligible 8th district voters. There is so much on people&#8217;s mind currently, it will be a wonder even if they remember to show up on a Saturday in December between the hours of 10 and 3.<br />
All and all, Rosemary Wilson has shaken the hand of many a city employee and teacher over the years and has the greater name recognition of those most likely to show up, on December 5th. Unless Jeff can get those 17,000 jobs he created to the polls, he&#8217;s toast.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Kirwin</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/11/20/8th-senate-district-gop-primary-may-go-nasty-and-quick/#comment-22907</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Kirwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saul, what assertion of mine are you talking about?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saul, what assertion of mine are you talking about?</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/11/20/8th-senate-district-gop-primary-may-go-nasty-and-quick/#comment-22904</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to make a comment, slightly as a joke.  How do you tick off a Liberal?  Present them with facts and statistics...  We all as Republicans have stuck together in the past and all know this &quot;joke&quot; to be a fact when opposing Liberals.  Now, look at what&#039;s going on.  we are dividing this party here in VB and it is quite sad to see.  I understand McWater&#039;s supporters for being upset.....possibly because everything the Wilson campaign put out is true!  There is no way anyone can dispute it because her campaign provided the op ed piece that backed up the &quot;negetive piece&quot;.  The McWaters camp is sounding like Democrats lately.  Just own up to it when it is true...which Jeff did today.  So, this &quot;negetive piece&quot; was nothing more than providing the voters with information that they may not know, as well as what came right out of his mouth.  If we don&#039;t watch out, this party is going to split.  We lost last year because the Republican lost it&#039;s way.  Mandated healthcare is NOT a Republican stance, no if, an&#039;s, or but&#039;s about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to make a comment, slightly as a joke.  How do you tick off a Liberal?  Present them with facts and statistics&#8230;  We all as Republicans have stuck together in the past and all know this &#8220;joke&#8221; to be a fact when opposing Liberals.  Now, look at what&#8217;s going on.  we are dividing this party here in VB and it is quite sad to see.  I understand McWater&#8217;s supporters for being upset&#8230;..possibly because everything the Wilson campaign put out is true!  There is no way anyone can dispute it because her campaign provided the op ed piece that backed up the &#8220;negetive piece&#8221;.  The McWaters camp is sounding like Democrats lately.  Just own up to it when it is true&#8230;which Jeff did today.  So, this &#8220;negetive piece&#8221; was nothing more than providing the voters with information that they may not know, as well as what came right out of his mouth.  If we don&#8217;t watch out, this party is going to split.  We lost last year because the Republican lost it&#8217;s way.  Mandated healthcare is NOT a Republican stance, no if, an&#8217;s, or but&#8217;s about it.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/11/20/8th-senate-district-gop-primary-may-go-nasty-and-quick/#comment-22903</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, accompanying that &quot;negative flier&quot; was an op-ed piece McWaters himself wrote in 2007 that said Obama&#039;s health plan did not go far enough. 

The only people disputing McWater&#039;s stance on health care are the McWaters campaign.

Saul, you mention only men that are in power. Not the fact that a woman is running against McWaters,a man who has stated his opposition to women being in power elsewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, accompanying that &#8220;negative flier&#8221; was an op-ed piece McWaters himself wrote in 2007 that said Obama&#8217;s health plan did not go far enough. </p>
<p>The only people disputing McWater&#8217;s stance on health care are the McWaters campaign.</p>
<p>Saul, you mention only men that are in power. Not the fact that a woman is running against McWaters,a man who has stated his opposition to women being in power elsewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Saul Simmons</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/11/20/8th-senate-district-gop-primary-may-go-nasty-and-quick/#comment-22901</link>
		<dc:creator>Saul Simmons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should point out that on the Trinity Website there are several women who serve as Deacons, which is a position of leadership and is more than what the Southern Baptist convention allows (the nations largest evangelical denomination).

By Brian&#039;s own assertion, then Bob McDonnell is disqualified from being governor because of the Catholic church&#039;s position on women in leadership and Mitt Romney is disqualified from being president because of the Mormon church&#039;s similar position.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should point out that on the Trinity Website there are several women who serve as Deacons, which is a position of leadership and is more than what the Southern Baptist convention allows (the nations largest evangelical denomination).</p>
<p>By Brian&#8217;s own assertion, then Bob McDonnell is disqualified from being governor because of the Catholic church&#8217;s position on women in leadership and Mitt Romney is disqualified from being president because of the Mormon church&#8217;s similar position.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Kirwin</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/11/20/8th-senate-district-gop-primary-may-go-nasty-and-quick/#comment-22899</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Kirwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What candidate of choice?

If the piece was so negative, McWaters wasn&#039;t very smart in repeating what it said in his remarks and confirming it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What candidate of choice?</p>
<p>If the piece was so negative, McWaters wasn&#8217;t very smart in repeating what it said in his remarks and confirming it.</p>
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		<title>By: Reid S.</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/11/20/8th-senate-district-gop-primary-may-go-nasty-and-quick/#comment-22895</link>
		<dc:creator>Reid S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes Brian, negative literature.  It was a piece that was intended to be negative about McWaters.  That qualifies as negative literature.  Jeff was not passing out anything about Rosemary.  Your candidate of choice made a poor decision today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes Brian, negative literature.  It was a piece that was intended to be negative about McWaters.  That qualifies as negative literature.  Jeff was not passing out anything about Rosemary.  Your candidate of choice made a poor decision today.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Kirwin</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/11/20/8th-senate-district-gop-primary-may-go-nasty-and-quick/#comment-22893</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Kirwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Negative literature?  It contained quotes that McWaters repeated to the crowd this morning.  Does that mean McWaters was being negative toward himself?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Negative literature?  It contained quotes that McWaters repeated to the crowd this morning.  Does that mean McWaters was being negative toward himself?</p>
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		<title>By: Reid S.</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/11/20/8th-senate-district-gop-primary-may-go-nasty-and-quick/#comment-22890</link>
		<dc:creator>Reid S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like LaCivita was right on, the Wilson campaign was handing out negative literature about McWaters this morning at the VB Republican breakfast.  McWaters did not reciprocate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like LaCivita was right on, the Wilson campaign was handing out negative literature about McWaters this morning at the VB Republican breakfast.  McWaters did not reciprocate.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee Talley</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/11/20/8th-senate-district-gop-primary-may-go-nasty-and-quick/#comment-22882</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee Talley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So McWaters believes women in church leadership bad but a man can be even though he runs a company convicted of stealing from people and the government. 

That my friends screams hypocrite!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So McWaters believes women in church leadership bad but a man can be even though he runs a company convicted of stealing from people and the government. </p>
<p>That my friends screams hypocrite!</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Kirwin</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/11/20/8th-senate-district-gop-primary-may-go-nasty-and-quick/#comment-22881</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Kirwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, women not being allowed to vote has a lot of historical precedent too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, women not being allowed to vote has a lot of historical precedent too.</p>
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		<title>By: Reid S.</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/11/20/8th-senate-district-gop-primary-may-go-nasty-and-quick/#comment-22880</link>
		<dc:creator>Reid S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James,

You clearly misunderstood what I was saying. I was referring to what J.R. wrote about McWater&#039;s church&#039;s position on male elders possibly being brought into question.  I said whoever wants to argue that:

“this is not an inherited interpretation from a long-standing church; it is a “modern” scriptural interpretation that relegates women in the 21st century, despite no precedent to do so.”

My point is that male eldership is a commonly held view in evangelical churches and has lots of historical and modern precedent.  Whoever wants to make a fuss about it will probably not get far and be met with vocal opposition. I wasn&#039;t saying anything about Rosemary...you did.  This is has nothing to do with women in politics, it&#039;s about a church&#039;s view on women in church leadership.  Totally different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James,</p>
<p>You clearly misunderstood what I was saying. I was referring to what J.R. wrote about McWater&#8217;s church&#8217;s position on male elders possibly being brought into question.  I said whoever wants to argue that:</p>
<p>“this is not an inherited interpretation from a long-standing church; it is a “modern” scriptural interpretation that relegates women in the 21st century, despite no precedent to do so.”</p>
<p>My point is that male eldership is a commonly held view in evangelical churches and has lots of historical and modern precedent.  Whoever wants to make a fuss about it will probably not get far and be met with vocal opposition. I wasn&#8217;t saying anything about Rosemary&#8230;you did.  This is has nothing to do with women in politics, it&#8217;s about a church&#8217;s view on women in church leadership.  Totally different.</p>
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