(Updated) Dates set for special Senate primaries; “Debate” held in the 8th today
By JR Hoeft | Saturday, November 14th, 2009 | PoliticsThe dates to select the GOP nominees in the 8th and 37th Senate Districts have been set.
In the 37th, Marianne Honrniko, Will Nance and Steve Hunt have until Dec. 1 to convince Republicans that they’re the best candidate to succeed Attorney General-elect Ken Cuccinelli. The primary will be held at the Centreville High School Media Center, 6001 Union Mill Rd. in Clifton from 6 p.m. – 10 p.m. (h/t Nova Tea Party Patriots)
In the 8th, there will also be a firehouse primary between Rosemary Wilson and Jeff McWaters on Dec. 5, as they hope to replace Virginia Beach Sheriff-elect Ken Stolle. Polling times and locations have yet to be announced.
Also in the 8th today, the Virginia Beach Taxpayer Alliance (VBTA) held a purported debate that Wilson was unable to attend.
The VBTA held the event anyway with Wilson’s seat vacant.
According to the Wilson campaign, she remained flooded-in due to the aftereffects of Tropical Storm Ida. Additionally, they stated that the debate organizers never formerly requested Wilson to attend, but that the event was held in hopes that each candidate would participate.
But the McWaters campaign isn’t exactly buying Wilson’s claims.
“Considering the short time-line of this campaign, we had hoped to give voters every opportunity possible to compare both candidates side-by-side,” said Travis Smith, McWaters campaign manager. “McWaters for Senate has formally requested three public debates with the Wilson campaign, all three were declined. The empty chair with Rosemary Wilson’s name on it at the VBTA forum this morning was unfortunate, but we plan to attend every public debate available to us, with or without our opponent.”
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Update: From Aaron Gulbransen, spokesperson for the Wilson Campaign:
“Rosemary and McWaters just did a forum this past week with the Beach Suburban Women’s club and we have 2 more forums on the calendar.”
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28 Responses to "(Updated) Dates set for special Senate primaries; “Debate” held in the 8th today"
According to the VBTA (I was at the “debate”) they contacted Wilson’s campaign the day after the election and several times after that. She never personally responded, her handlers did for her and they said she couldn’t make it. Nothing about the flood was mentioned.
I also think that’s a bold face lie to say she was “flooded in.” She lives in Virginia Beach, I live in Norfolk right next to the Hague River, by the Chrysler Museum. The parking lot was under 6 feet of water yesterday, today when I left it was maybe 2 feet. Norfolk is 30 feet below sea level. There is no way Rosemary Wilson, who probably lives in a nice home, is going to get flooded in. Maybe she lives on the water and her house took some water damage or something, but flooded in? Seems like we need some market forces to do work on the consultant class in Hampton Roads.
Yes, Max. Everyone should have a genius consultant like you. What was your record? 0 for what?
0 for 3, 0 for 4 if you count the special election last year this time. I suppose it could be 0 and 1 though. I only ran Amiral’s campaign for a few months, then left because he was a maniac and all I did for Scalley was some mapping, video, and policy stuff. Jason’s campaign we got destroyed because we underestimated just how strong Party/Race ID voting is in Norfolk. It didn’t help that Chris Woodfin (Wilson’s consultant) totally abdicated his duties as Vice Chair, the results would have been a lot better if he had actually done his job. I’d say getting the results we did get with no money and no support is pretty impressive.
Either way, we both know you’re just sore because Rosemary was your candidate and now shes not. Opted out, yeah right.
[...] and Rosemary Wilson. Wilson’s chair remained empty as she was unable or unwilling to attend. Word from her campaign is that she was flooded in from the storm and that the organizers never forma…. This is totally contrary to the reality on the ground (flood waters have receded) and contrary to [...]
Hey, genius Max. Do we have to reprint all your rantings about how no one can run a campaign like you can and you were gonna show everyone how it’s supposed to be done?
Now ya got nothing but excuses.
Sad.
Geez, I think Max has a crush on Woodfin. He talks about him all the time.
Why anyone would attend any VBTA function is beyond me. It is a fringe group with diminishing membership and never gets its candidates (Moss/Dean/Erb/Greenmum) elected to anything.
I have an obsession with all people who have contributed to the decline of decency and truth in politics. That would include Woodfin, Kirwin, and you Mr. Atwater.
As for your comment Brian, no need for a reprint, I’ll repeat it. No one can run a campaign like me, at least no one I know of. I happen to base them on logic, policy, and community service. It didn’t work out too well, although we were in the most gerrymandered district in the state. No excuses. I could have gotten 46% in the 90th, but I couldn’t have won. We went straight for throat, the only way we could have gotten 50+1, and it didn’t work. I’ve got no excuses, but I’ve got plenty of plans in store for people like you, Aaron, and Woodfin.
Jim,
I know that the Virginia Beach Party is talking about December 5th for the 8th Senate District Firehouse Primary, but I don’t believe they can set it until the Governor calls for the Special Election. Does anybody know? Has that happened yet? I have not seen that anywhere.
And Max, it’s time to put up or shut up. The only way to influence a Vice-Chairmanship in Norfolk is to take out the Chairman with someone of your own. Got somebody in mind? Who you running for Chairman? Let’s hear a name so we can start looking at qualifications.
The thing to remember about Max is that he is the guy that thinks that 9/11 was a George Bush conspiracy.
“Just so you conservatives dont take it to heart, I don’t think Bush did it, cause he isn’t that smart”
Read em and weep boys. http://www.bentham-open.org/pages/content.php?TOCPJ/2009/00000002/00000001/7TOCPJ.SGM I’d love to see someone claim scanning electron microscopy (SEM)and X-ray energy dispersive spectroscopy is a joke.
As to you John; I don’t have a perfect candidate yet, I have a few people in mind, but the event is still some months away. If you have any political experience you know this is a numbers game. I know how many people went to the last mass meeting, in fact I was there. Bringing enough people with me to that meeting to swing the vote to whomever I choose is not an impossible feat. All you need is an 18 year old registered to vote. There are more than enough kids in Norfolk who are sick and tired of the BS that are ready to do something about it.
The funniest part about this whole thread??? I called Aaron and Rosemary BOLD FACE LIARS for claiming she was “flooded in.” No response from Aaron G, official spokesperson on that point. Must mean he doesn’t dispute it. How quaint.
Max you are a sad little boy playing in a grown man’s game. Politics is for adults not for kids. Go home before I call your mom. I still don’t know how Gary Byler can keep someone like you around with your known pot proclivities. I’m sure he knows if you mess with crap it will get on your hands eventually.
Have you even read that article in the physics journal yet? The only thing boyish about this situation is your response to my posts on every topic. Perhaps you are the one who needs to realize this is a grown mans game. No one has yet dispute a single FACT I’ve stated, in any post, anywhere. You all have no idea how much fun this whole dynamic is for me. I feel bad for whoring all of BD’s posts, ya’ll can ban me if you want, I wouldn’t mind, just do it publicly.
For the record I don’t work for Gary Byler anymore, I havn’t worked in his office for almost a year.
Now that gives me a better opinion of Gary. What is there to dispute that your a pest and a crazy. I think everyone here agrees on that.
Max is going to run Mary Jane for Norfolk chair and she already has the NORML endorsement. Alice B Toklas is considering a run too and Donna Juanas, Fuma D’Angola, the Green Goddess, Honey Blunts, and Puff the Dragon all friends of Max. It should be an interesting High spirited campaign.
I didn’t respond to your comment Max because I had shared my thoughts with the only person who mattered at that point, the author of this post. Rosemary was flooded in. She missed a few meetings that were on her calendar today.
Lee, I disagree with you slightly. While Max’s sanity is surely gone and we could probably amuse ourselves with an open thread in which we guess what mental disorder he has, I’m not sure I’d call him a pest. Whenever I want to give myself a good laugh, I read Max’s responses to posts on BD. I swear, Lewis Black or Dennis Miller couldn’t come up with funnier stuff.
On a serious note, I am offended when someone says that 9/11 was an inside job. Tell that to the families of the 3,000 that died. Tell that to the cops and firemen that rushed down to Ground Zero that day. 9/11 was not an inside job and other than the imaginations of the tinfoil hat brigade, there isn’t a shred of proof to be found that says it was.
I formerly served as Republican Captain of Linkhorn Precinct, so I’ve walked Rosemary’s home neighborhood a few times before. It’s surrounded on three sides by water, with gullies (that could easily flood) crossing the roads in and out a few times. Therefore, the flooded in story is certainly plausible.
However, I agree: why would anyone (let alone Rosemary) want to go before the VBTA? Wilson will never get their endorsement, so it would be a waste of time.
Finally, let me defend Chris Woodfin. I first met him when he was Campaign Manager for Nick Rerras’ reelection in 2003 (over Andy Protogyrou) and I was a volunteer for Nick. As nice a guy as you’ll meet, and I’ve dealt with him a couple times since.
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High tide was at 5am on Saturday where Rosemary Lives, this was several days after the storm, I highly doubt she was “flooded in.” If she is or was flooded in, maybe she should have called the Red Cross for assistance, because if it was so bad that she couldnt drive out days after the storm, then she must have suffered serious property damage during the storm.
As for 9/11, when you can explain why nano-composite thermite explosives where found in massive quanities in the dust from the explosions, then I’ll change my opinion. Odds are you are too scared to read an article in a physics journal and too stupid to understand what it all means.
As for Chris, you’ve dealt with him a couple times, I worked for 10 months on every delegate campaign in Norfolk and not only did Chris not do a thing to help the candidates (besides trying to extort money), he actively worked against us, talking bad about them to the party regulars and denying access to crucial lists. He lied to the chairwomen when he told her everything was taken care of, then I get a call from her husband at 11pm the day before election saying not a thing has been done and that hes about ready to have Woodfin and Aarons head.
Max, looking at the races in Norfolk, you probably could’ve helped them more by quitting.
Max,
The street entering my apartment complex was still flooded Saturday morning and we’re nowhere near the water.
However, I figured I could count on you to take my bait. As Kirwin can confirm, I’ve been one of Rosemary Wilson’s most pointed critics during her tenure on City Council. While everything I said in my previous comment was true, you took me as somehow pro-Wilson. Given my ties to the African-American community leadership, I’d rather face a firing squad without a blindfold than campaign for Wilson. In fact, last year I was writing papers for the Council campaign of Rosemary’s principal opponent, my good friend Georgia Allen. (Gotcha!)
Max, get some professional help. Maybe you can be roommates in the psych ward with Reid Greenmun. The two of you can go to sleep at night sharing conspiracy theories.
Henry, what do your ties with the “African American” community leadership have to do with the current race between McWaters and Wilson? Neither of them being members of the African American community and all..
I understand being critical of Rosemary Wilson if you were working for Geogia Allen during that council race. Not being a fan of Wilson, I voted for Allen. However, what does any of that have to do with the current campaign and your prefernce for a firing squad?
I somehow missed your criticism during that council race. Just honestly wondering how any of that would carry over to this one.
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Britt,
Wilson is loathed among the African-American community leadership. That’s why they put their best known personality (Georgia Allen) up against her. You can’t be friends with both Wilson and the African-American community leadership.
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