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	<title>Comments on: BREAKING: Perriello votes to bring detainees to Virginia!</title>
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		<title>By: Brian Kirwin</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/06/18/breaking-perriello-votes-to-bring-detainees-to-virginia/#comment-18787</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Kirwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 20:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s so funny.  The Dem bloggers are simultaneously arguing that the amendment didn&#039;t bring the GITMO detainees to our prisons AND that our prison guards are up to the task of housing them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s so funny.  The Dem bloggers are simultaneously arguing that the amendment didn&#8217;t bring the GITMO detainees to our prisons AND that our prison guards are up to the task of housing them.</p>
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		<title>By: It&#8217;s too hot to fight&#8230;[UPDATED]</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/06/18/breaking-perriello-votes-to-bring-detainees-to-virginia/#comment-18761</link>
		<dc:creator>It&#8217;s too hot to fight&#8230;[UPDATED]</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 02:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Still over at Bearing Drift, J.R. has stirred up a ruckus with this post:  BREAKING: Perriello votes to bring detainees to Virginia! [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Still over at Bearing Drift, J.R. has stirred up a ruckus with this post:  BREAKING: Perriello votes to bring detainees to Virginia! [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Hey, don&#8217;t take our word for it, Anon &#171; The right-wing liberal</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/06/18/breaking-perriello-votes-to-bring-detainees-to-virginia/#comment-18759</link>
		<dc:creator>Hey, don&#8217;t take our word for it, Anon &#171; The right-wing liberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 02:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] don&#8217;t take our word for it,&#160;Anon  Apparently, Bearing Drift&#8217;s critical post on those who managed to convince the House of Representatives to move enemy [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] don&#8217;t take our word for it,&nbsp;Anon  Apparently, Bearing Drift&#8217;s critical post on those who managed to convince the House of Representatives to move enemy [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Amit</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/06/18/breaking-perriello-votes-to-bring-detainees-to-virginia/#comment-18753</link>
		<dc:creator>Amit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 20:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Britt, of course I do not want them living in the apartment next to me.  they didn&#039;t want to come here, they didn&#039;t apply for a visa or a job or even a passport.  if our government is so incompetent that they cannot bring charges on someone they have detained for 7 years then they should return them to their home countries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Britt, of course I do not want them living in the apartment next to me.  they didn&#8217;t want to come here, they didn&#8217;t apply for a visa or a job or even a passport.  if our government is so incompetent that they cannot bring charges on someone they have detained for 7 years then they should return them to their home countries.</p>
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		<title>By: ShaunKenney.com &#187; AIAW: Republican Blogger LIES Insult Law Enforcement Community (OMG!!!)</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/06/18/breaking-perriello-votes-to-bring-detainees-to-virginia/#comment-18751</link>
		<dc:creator>ShaunKenney.com &#187; AIAW: Republican Blogger LIES Insult Law Enforcement Community (OMG!!!)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 19:37:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the scales, namely Congressmen Connolly and Perriello.  Bearing Drift issued the commentary that seemed to hit the Virginia leftosphere hardest: Rep. Perriello just voted with Speaker Pelosi on an amendment to allow for funds to close [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the scales, namely Congressmen Connolly and Perriello.  Bearing Drift issued the commentary that seemed to hit the Virginia leftosphere hardest: Rep. Perriello just voted with Speaker Pelosi on an amendment to allow for funds to close [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Britt Howard</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/06/18/breaking-perriello-votes-to-bring-detainees-to-virginia/#comment-18746</link>
		<dc:creator>Britt Howard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 17:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;&#039;&#039;We are not going to release anyone if it would endanger our national security, nor will we release detainees within the United States who endanger the American people,&#039;&#039; he said.&quot; - President Obama 
Quote taken from the Miami Herald online date: 5/21/09

Nor will we release detainees within the United States who endanger the American people? Does that mean he plans to release those he deems not to be dangerous within the US? UNACCEPTABLE if that is true!!

Gitmo is not the issue. Imprisoning terrorists on US soil, while not a wlecome notion for the taxpayer, is not the issue either. Releasing ANY of them in our communities ........is the issue.

Amit, your opinion of GITMO and the wars aside, do you approve of allowing any of them to live next door to you? Am I right in thinking that you&#039;re not in favor of that?

Being upset with GITMO or any mishandling of wars does not restrict you from opposing citizenship for prisoners taken from a war.

Do a little googling and you see quotes like:

(CNSNews.com) - Shortly after his release from Guantanamo Bay prison in 2004, Mohammed Ismail was quoted as saying, “They gave me a good time in Cuba. They were very nice to me, giving me English lessons.”

Ismail was repatriated to Afghanistan but recaptured in May 2004 for participating in an attack against U.S forces in Kandahar. He was carrying a letter confirming his membership with the Taliban. 


If you google, you&#039;ll also see people comparing the 1 in 7 recitivism rate to our much higher rate among US criminals. Just another example of comparing apples to oranges. The aren&#039;t US citizens and they aren&#039;t just criminals. When US criminals serve their time they are released in the same country they were from. If we captured prisoners in Pakistan, send them back to Pakistan. Where they go from there is their business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8221;We are not going to release anyone if it would endanger our national security, nor will we release detainees within the United States who endanger the American people,&#8221; he said.&#8221; &#8211; President Obama<br />
Quote taken from the Miami Herald online date: 5/21/09</p>
<p>Nor will we release detainees within the United States who endanger the American people? Does that mean he plans to release those he deems not to be dangerous within the US? UNACCEPTABLE if that is true!!</p>
<p>Gitmo is not the issue. Imprisoning terrorists on US soil, while not a wlecome notion for the taxpayer, is not the issue either. Releasing ANY of them in our communities &#8230;&#8230;..is the issue.</p>
<p>Amit, your opinion of GITMO and the wars aside, do you approve of allowing any of them to live next door to you? Am I right in thinking that you&#8217;re not in favor of that?</p>
<p>Being upset with GITMO or any mishandling of wars does not restrict you from opposing citizenship for prisoners taken from a war.</p>
<p>Do a little googling and you see quotes like:</p>
<p>(CNSNews.com) &#8211; Shortly after his release from Guantanamo Bay prison in 2004, Mohammed Ismail was quoted as saying, “They gave me a good time in Cuba. They were very nice to me, giving me English lessons.”</p>
<p>Ismail was repatriated to Afghanistan but recaptured in May 2004 for participating in an attack against U.S forces in Kandahar. He was carrying a letter confirming his membership with the Taliban. </p>
<p>If you google, you&#8217;ll also see people comparing the 1 in 7 recitivism rate to our much higher rate among US criminals. Just another example of comparing apples to oranges. The aren&#8217;t US citizens and they aren&#8217;t just criminals. When US criminals serve their time they are released in the same country they were from. If we captured prisoners in Pakistan, send them back to Pakistan. Where they go from there is their business.</p>
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		<title>By: JR Hoeft</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/06/18/breaking-perriello-votes-to-bring-detainees-to-virginia/#comment-18744</link>
		<dc:creator>JR Hoeft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 17:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just left this comment &lt;a href=&quot;http://anonymousisawoman.blogspot.com/2009/06/republican-blogger-lies-insult-law.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;over at AIAW&lt;/a&gt; and felt it was worth sharing due to the abject weirdness the left is starting to exhibit on this issue:


&lt;blockquote&gt;This has nothing to do with prison guards or their ability to keep us safe.

It has everything to do with wasting taxpayer money when we have a perfectly good facility at GITMO already doing the job.

It has everything to do with creating unnecessary demands on our local populations when we have to move the prisoner to the courthouse.

It has everything to do with granting U.S. rights to people sworn to undermine the U.S. system of governance and law and order.

It has everything to do with putting these prisoners in general population, allowing them to sew their seeds of hatred amongst U.S. inmates.

It has everything to do with the POTENTIAL of making the area surrounding the prison a target for outside terrorist groups and extremists.

Spare me your hyperbole.

Besides, my source said Perriello was arm-twisted into this vote and he was one of the last, if not the last one, to cast his ballot...literally being the one.

Additionally, Virginia is at the head of the line when it comes to prisoner moves for the very reason you mention - we have top-notch military brigs and state prisons.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just left this comment <a href="http://anonymousisawoman.blogspot.com/2009/06/republican-blogger-lies-insult-law.html" rel="nofollow">over at AIAW</a> and felt it was worth sharing due to the abject weirdness the left is starting to exhibit on this issue:</p>
<blockquote><p>This has nothing to do with prison guards or their ability to keep us safe.</p>
<p>It has everything to do with wasting taxpayer money when we have a perfectly good facility at GITMO already doing the job.</p>
<p>It has everything to do with creating unnecessary demands on our local populations when we have to move the prisoner to the courthouse.</p>
<p>It has everything to do with granting U.S. rights to people sworn to undermine the U.S. system of governance and law and order.</p>
<p>It has everything to do with putting these prisoners in general population, allowing them to sew their seeds of hatred amongst U.S. inmates.</p>
<p>It has everything to do with the POTENTIAL of making the area surrounding the prison a target for outside terrorist groups and extremists.</p>
<p>Spare me your hyperbole.</p>
<p>Besides, my source said Perriello was arm-twisted into this vote and he was one of the last, if not the last one, to cast his ballot&#8230;literally being the one.</p>
<p>Additionally, Virginia is at the head of the line when it comes to prisoner moves for the very reason you mention &#8211; we have top-notch military brigs and state prisons.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: J.R. Hoeft</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/06/18/breaking-perriello-votes-to-bring-detainees-to-virginia/#comment-18737</link>
		<dc:creator>J.R. Hoeft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 16:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keep them at GITMO.  Try them at GITMO under a military tribunal....quickly.  If found innocent, send them home.  If found guilty, bring them to justice.

I don&#039;t feel &quot;worried&quot; that prisoners will be held here, other than the fact that it&#039;s unnecessary, a potential hassle, and a waste of taxpayer dollars.

When did American&#039;s grow so spineless?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep them at GITMO.  Try them at GITMO under a military tribunal&#8230;.quickly.  If found innocent, send them home.  If found guilty, bring them to justice.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t feel &#8220;worried&#8221; that prisoners will be held here, other than the fact that it&#8217;s unnecessary, a potential hassle, and a waste of taxpayer dollars.</p>
<p>When did American&#8217;s grow so spineless?</p>
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		<title>By: Amit</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/06/18/breaking-perriello-votes-to-bring-detainees-to-virginia/#comment-18733</link>
		<dc:creator>Amit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 15:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>didn&#039;t Virginia house Zacarias Moussaoui (aka 20th 9/11 hijacker)?  I wasn&#039;t worried then and I&#039;m not worried now.  Gitmo is an embarrassing chapter in our &quot;Global War on Terrorism&quot; and we need to either release these prisoners to their home countries or start acting like real Americans and practice habeas corpus</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>didn&#8217;t Virginia house Zacarias Moussaoui (aka 20th 9/11 hijacker)?  I wasn&#8217;t worried then and I&#8217;m not worried now.  Gitmo is an embarrassing chapter in our &#8220;Global War on Terrorism&#8221; and we need to either release these prisoners to their home countries or start acting like real Americans and practice habeas corpus</p>
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		<title>By: Britt Howard</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/06/18/breaking-perriello-votes-to-bring-detainees-to-virginia/#comment-18725</link>
		<dc:creator>Britt Howard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 02:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clearly not everyone is operating with the same set of &quot;facts&quot;!

Some seem to think that there is no chance that some of the detainees will be released into the general population here in Virginia. Others have heard the same sources I have ,saying that this is a possibility and that other nations are also being asked to take in these former prisoners. From what I thought I heard/read, some would not be released but, imprisoned as William Bailey talks about.

Let&#039;s just say that if there is ANY chance that former GITMO detainees will be allowed to immigrate under ANY policy domestic or international, the responsible elected officials should be driven out of the state by crowds wielding torches and pitchforks!!! Deport them before you release them. Take them back home.........THEIR home.

Now, if there is no chance of that..........if we&#039;re JUST talking about imprisoning them, I&#039;d be guilty of the NIMBY mentality. However, I wouldn&#039;t be as enraged at blatant irresponsible actions on the part of our representatives.

Offering these detainees a place in America is NOT our responsibility. Putting these people on our streets is not serving the constituents well at all.

Hey, I have a LOT of respect for both Ron Paul and George Fitch, but letting these detainees live here among the public is beyond the pale. Let&#039;s not cut off our collective noses to spite our faces.

So, as the only ones to hold our elected officials in check, I guess &quot;we the people&quot; need to found out what the truth is, and who is telling it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clearly not everyone is operating with the same set of &#8220;facts&#8221;!</p>
<p>Some seem to think that there is no chance that some of the detainees will be released into the general population here in Virginia. Others have heard the same sources I have ,saying that this is a possibility and that other nations are also being asked to take in these former prisoners. From what I thought I heard/read, some would not be released but, imprisoned as William Bailey talks about.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s just say that if there is ANY chance that former GITMO detainees will be allowed to immigrate under ANY policy domestic or international, the responsible elected officials should be driven out of the state by crowds wielding torches and pitchforks!!! Deport them before you release them. Take them back home&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;THEIR home.</p>
<p>Now, if there is no chance of that&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.if we&#8217;re JUST talking about imprisoning them, I&#8217;d be guilty of the NIMBY mentality. However, I wouldn&#8217;t be as enraged at blatant irresponsible actions on the part of our representatives.</p>
<p>Offering these detainees a place in America is NOT our responsibility. Putting these people on our streets is not serving the constituents well at all.</p>
<p>Hey, I have a LOT of respect for both Ron Paul and George Fitch, but letting these detainees live here among the public is beyond the pale. Let&#8217;s not cut off our collective noses to spite our faces.</p>
<p>So, as the only ones to hold our elected officials in check, I guess &#8220;we the people&#8221; need to found out what the truth is, and who is telling it.</p>
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		<title>By: kelley in virginia</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/06/18/breaking-perriello-votes-to-bring-detainees-to-virginia/#comment-18721</link>
		<dc:creator>kelley in virginia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 19:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and whoever said perriello has bucked the dems voting for spending isssues?  he voted for the GIVE act, when funded, pored $5.7 billion to 250,000 &quot;volunteers&quot;.  some of thse volunteers are with Americorps &amp; ACORN.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and whoever said perriello has bucked the dems voting for spending isssues?  he voted for the GIVE act, when funded, pored $5.7 billion to 250,000 &#8220;volunteers&#8221;.  some of thse volunteers are with Americorps &amp; ACORN.</p>
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		<title>By: kelley in virginia</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/06/18/breaking-perriello-votes-to-bring-detainees-to-virginia/#comment-18719</link>
		<dc:creator>kelley in virginia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 19:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>steven:  you hit the nail on the head with the traffic issue.  the prison will be &quot;ringed&quot; with more protective (protecting itself from outside terrorists) barriers.  depending on the prisoner(s) held there, there could be flyovers  from jets, too.

these terrorists do not have rights.

if perreillo wants to bring them to the US, he might as well turn them loose in Alaska, where wolf hunting from aircraft is permitted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>steven:  you hit the nail on the head with the traffic issue.  the prison will be &#8220;ringed&#8221; with more protective (protecting itself from outside terrorists) barriers.  depending on the prisoner(s) held there, there could be flyovers  from jets, too.</p>
<p>these terrorists do not have rights.</p>
<p>if perreillo wants to bring them to the US, he might as well turn them loose in Alaska, where wolf hunting from aircraft is permitted.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Osborne</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/06/18/breaking-perriello-votes-to-bring-detainees-to-virginia/#comment-18717</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Osborne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 15:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joel,

The point is, that we should not give these jihadists the same rights as American criminals. The tribunal system is the system that has been used in times past. 

There are also practical concerns. If you think that traffic in NOVA is bad now, just wait until they have to close a city block in order to move the jihadi from his cell to the courthouse, two or three times a week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joel,</p>
<p>The point is, that we should not give these jihadists the same rights as American criminals. The tribunal system is the system that has been used in times past. </p>
<p>There are also practical concerns. If you think that traffic in NOVA is bad now, just wait until they have to close a city block in order to move the jihadi from his cell to the courthouse, two or three times a week.</p>
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		<title>By: Joel McDonald</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/06/18/breaking-perriello-votes-to-bring-detainees-to-virginia/#comment-18715</link>
		<dc:creator>Joel McDonald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 14:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel like I&#039;m out of the loop on this. Do we really lack confidence in our prison system to hold terrorists here in Virginia?

This seems like fear-mongering to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel like I&#8217;m out of the loop on this. Do we really lack confidence in our prison system to hold terrorists here in Virginia?</p>
<p>This seems like fear-mongering to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Kirwin</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/06/18/breaking-perriello-votes-to-bring-detainees-to-virginia/#comment-18713</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Kirwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 13:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please keep talking and writing, Mr. Bailey.  In fact, get louder.  Bring all your Democratic candidates along with you.  Together, mount a large campaign to bring GITMO terrorists to Virginia.

Please!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please keep talking and writing, Mr. Bailey.  In fact, get louder.  Bring all your Democratic candidates along with you.  Together, mount a large campaign to bring GITMO terrorists to Virginia.</p>
<p>Please!</p>
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