Comments on: Poll: Who’s getting the worst deal in the Frederick saga? http://bearingdrift.com/2009/04/01/poll-whos-getting-the-worst-deal-in-the-frederick-saga/ Sat, 26 May 2012 07:01:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Britt Howard http://bearingdrift.com/2009/04/01/poll-whos-getting-the-worst-deal-in-the-frederick-saga/#comment-15466 Britt Howard Thu, 02 Apr 2009 16:17:50 +0000 http://bearingdrift.com/?p=5583#comment-15466 O.P. Ditch, thank goodness you didn't say "Very disappointed". Then feelings would have REALLY been hurt! Lol. O.P. Ditch, thank goodness you didn’t say “Very disappointed”. Then feelings would have REALLY been hurt! Lol.

]]> By: O. P. Ditch http://bearingdrift.com/2009/04/01/poll-whos-getting-the-worst-deal-in-the-frederick-saga/#comment-15464 O. P. Ditch Thu, 02 Apr 2009 16:03:35 +0000 http://bearingdrift.com/?p=5583#comment-15464 "Sundance", "David", "Not O P ", "Outside viewer", "Loudoun Insider", who are these people??? Oh, and like "disappointed" is an ATTACK?????????? WOW! Sounds like what the Dems and the Lame Stream Media would say in a campaign when Reps tell the truth. I wonder where we can find the names of ALL the SCC members who signed the boot Jeff letter? Maybe I could be disappointed in them also. “Sundance”, “David”, “Not O P “, “Outside viewer”, “Loudoun Insider”, who are these people???

Oh, and like “disappointed” is an ATTACK?????????? WOW!

Sounds like what the Dems and the Lame Stream Media would say in a campaign when Reps tell the truth.

I wonder where we can find the names of ALL the SCC members who signed the boot Jeff letter? Maybe I could be disappointed in them also.

]]> By: Loudoun Insider http://bearingdrift.com/2009/04/01/poll-whos-getting-the-worst-deal-in-the-frederick-saga/#comment-15462 Loudoun Insider Thu, 02 Apr 2009 14:30:01 +0000 http://bearingdrift.com/?p=5583#comment-15462 O.P. Ditch - Ditching the First Amendment! O.P. Ditch – Ditching the First Amendment!

]]> By: Sundance http://bearingdrift.com/2009/04/01/poll-whos-getting-the-worst-deal-in-the-frederick-saga/#comment-15457 Sundance Thu, 02 Apr 2009 11:27:05 +0000 http://bearingdrift.com/?p=5583#comment-15457 O.P., What do you like or defend about financial impropriety for personal fiancial gain? J-Fraud has his hand in the RPV till and i am disgusted by it. How can you possibly defend such unethical behavior? How can Vellie Dietrich defend such unethical behavior? Or Howie Lind? Or Michael Giere? Or Patsy Drain? Or David Ray? And while we are at it, O.P., how do you defend censorship on your Network by taking down all discussions of J-Fraud's malbehavior? Is censorship what the Republican Party is all about? I should say not, but apparently J-Fraud and his suppporters say no. You guys dont want a winning political party, you want an exclusive private club of elitest insiders. That sort of attitude will defeat us in November. IF Bob McDonnell is to bring responsible conservative governance back to the Commonwealth of Virginia, then the RPV needs new leadership. J-Fraud is a a prescription for losing all three offices statewide and losing the HoD. If you support TerryMac or Brian Moron, then you support J-Fraud for Chairman. It really is that simple. What sayest you to that, O.P.? What makes you and the rest of the J-Fraud crowd think you know more about what the head of our statewide ticket needs than he does? O.P.,
What do you like or defend about financial impropriety for personal fiancial gain? J-Fraud has his hand in the RPV till and i am disgusted by it. How can you possibly defend such unethical behavior? How can Vellie Dietrich defend such unethical behavior? Or Howie Lind? Or Michael Giere? Or Patsy Drain? Or David Ray?
And while we are at it, O.P., how do you defend censorship on your Network by taking down all discussions of J-Fraud’s malbehavior? Is censorship what the Republican Party is all about? I should say not, but apparently J-Fraud and his suppporters say no. You guys dont want a winning political party, you want an exclusive private club of elitest insiders. That sort of attitude will defeat us in November.
IF Bob McDonnell is to bring responsible conservative governance back to the Commonwealth of Virginia, then the RPV needs new leadership. J-Fraud is a a prescription for losing all three offices statewide and losing the HoD.
If you support TerryMac or Brian Moron, then you support J-Fraud for Chairman. It really is that simple. What sayest you to that, O.P.? What makes you and the rest of the J-Fraud crowd think you know more about what the head of our statewide ticket needs than he does?

]]> By: ARE THE GRASSROOT BEING CULTIVATED OR PACIFIED? « Citizen Tom http://bearingdrift.com/2009/04/01/poll-whos-getting-the-worst-deal-in-the-frederick-saga/#comment-15451 ARE THE GRASSROOT BEING CULTIVATED OR PACIFIED? « Citizen Tom Thu, 02 Apr 2009 03:25:02 +0000 http://bearingdrift.com/?p=5583#comment-15451 [...] he received — from other political activists — were quite positive.  Bearing Drift (here) and Too Conservative (here) linked to Kenney’s post recommended reading it.  Nonetheless, [...] [...] he received — from other political activists — were quite positive.  Bearing Drift (here) and Too Conservative (here) linked to Kenney’s post recommended reading it.  Nonetheless, [...]

]]> By: Dave http://bearingdrift.com/2009/04/01/poll-whos-getting-the-worst-deal-in-the-frederick-saga/#comment-15433 Dave Wed, 01 Apr 2009 19:00:44 +0000 http://bearingdrift.com/?p=5583#comment-15433 I want to say having worked with Becky Stoeckel for over a year she is by far one of the BEST District Chairs around. Becky stands up for what is right regardless whether its the insiders or not... As my District Chairman I applaud her willingness stand up for what she thinks is right and I find it appalling that Becky or for that matter Juanita would be attacked in such a manner. Both women pour the hearts into the Party with little in return. It would be wise to perhaps talk to them for a minute and find out why they did what they did. As "ELECTED" Party Leaders we sent them to SCC to do the work, and they have seen a wrong and are trying to correct it. I am quite frankly saddened that these fine women would be attacked on a blog for standing up for what they think is right. One last point, when McCain materials were scarce in Virginia, it was Becky Stoeckel and the 11th District Committee who came to the rescue providing Prince William County with bumper stickers and lapels much of which for FREE! Where was RPV when we needed materials? The answer I don't know but thank God for Becky Stoeckel I want to say having worked with Becky Stoeckel for over a year she is by far one of the BEST District Chairs around. Becky stands up for what is right regardless whether its the insiders or not… As my District Chairman I applaud her willingness stand up for what she thinks is right and I find it appalling that Becky or for that matter Juanita would be attacked in such a manner.

Both women pour the hearts into the Party with little in return. It would be wise to perhaps talk to them for a minute and find out why they did what they did. As “ELECTED” Party Leaders we sent them to SCC to do the work, and they have seen a wrong and are trying to correct it. I am quite frankly saddened that these fine women would be attacked on a blog for standing up for what they think is right.

One last point, when McCain materials were scarce in Virginia, it was Becky Stoeckel and the 11th District Committee who came to the rescue providing Prince William County with bumper stickers and lapels much of which for FREE! Where was RPV when we needed materials? The answer I don’t know but thank God for Becky Stoeckel

]]> By: Not O P http://bearingdrift.com/2009/04/01/poll-whos-getting-the-worst-deal-in-the-frederick-saga/#comment-15431 Not O P Wed, 01 Apr 2009 17:56:09 +0000 http://bearingdrift.com/?p=5583#comment-15431 OP have you wondered why your friends all grassroots people want Jeff gone. Do they have better information than you do? Do they have to deal with his dishonesty more often than you? OP have you wondered why your friends all grassroots people want Jeff gone. Do they have better information than you do? Do they have to deal with his dishonesty more often than you?

]]> By: Outside viewer http://bearingdrift.com/2009/04/01/poll-whos-getting-the-worst-deal-in-the-frederick-saga/#comment-15429 Outside viewer Wed, 01 Apr 2009 17:32:22 +0000 http://bearingdrift.com/?p=5583#comment-15429 This is about honesty and leadership Frederick lied about his taking a percentage and blames everyone else for RPV problems. That is not a leader. The Advance was a disaster with Amy running things and the convention is out of rooms already two months out. The communication with McCain was so bad they asked Jeff to stay away. He treats people like dirt. He is an embarassment. This is about honesty and leadership
Frederick lied about his taking a percentage and blames everyone else for RPV problems. That is not a leader. The Advance was a disaster with Amy running things and the convention is out of rooms already two months out. The communication with McCain was so bad they asked Jeff to stay away. He treats people like dirt. He is an embarassment.

]]> By: Max Shapiro http://bearingdrift.com/2009/04/01/poll-whos-getting-the-worst-deal-in-the-frederick-saga/#comment-15427 Max Shapiro Wed, 01 Apr 2009 16:37:37 +0000 http://bearingdrift.com/?p=5583#comment-15427 32k looks bad, when you look at the program SBE provides it becomes believable. and Brian, I've been making essentially the same point all along, and everyone calls me crazy. One more example of you being a hypocrite. Have a nice day. 32k looks bad, when you look at the program SBE provides it becomes believable.

and Brian, I’ve been making essentially the same point all along, and everyone calls me crazy. One more example of you being a hypocrite. Have a nice day.

]]> By: Doesn't matter http://bearingdrift.com/2009/04/01/poll-whos-getting-the-worst-deal-in-the-frederick-saga/#comment-15418 Doesn't matter Wed, 01 Apr 2009 14:56:58 +0000 http://bearingdrift.com/?p=5583#comment-15418 WTF - I think 32K is outside the margin of error. http://www.wjla.com/news/stories/0309/609101.html I would think the last thing Jeffy would want to do at this point is add any more flames to the fire. The amendment couldn't wait until after the vote? Maybe someone MADE him do the amendment right now. Wonder if that's why he has the lawyers on board. WTF – I think 32K is outside the margin of error.

http://www.wjla.com/news/stories/0309/609101.html

I would think the last thing Jeffy would want to do at this point is add any more flames to the fire. The amendment couldn’t wait until after the vote? Maybe someone MADE him do the amendment right now. Wonder if that’s why he has the lawyers on board.

]]> By: O. P. Ditch http://bearingdrift.com/2009/04/01/poll-whos-getting-the-worst-deal-in-the-frederick-saga/#comment-15416 O. P. Ditch Wed, 01 Apr 2009 14:48:27 +0000 http://bearingdrift.com/?p=5583#comment-15416 Lee, I believe Jeff keeps his wife's candidacy viable by proving that he did nothing seriously wrong. This situation was created in the beginning by some disgruntled Hager fans and "party insiders." In my book, the misguided SCC members and Bob McDonnell are already the loosers in this affair. I am especially disappointed in the SCC members that I know fairly well (Ballenger, Stoeckel, Rich, Watkins, etc). Lee,
I believe Jeff keeps his wife’s candidacy viable by proving that he did nothing seriously wrong. This situation was created in the beginning by some disgruntled Hager fans and “party insiders.” In my book, the misguided SCC members and Bob McDonnell are already the loosers in this affair. I am especially disappointed in the SCC members that I know fairly well (Ballenger, Stoeckel, Rich, Watkins, etc).

]]> By: Loudoun Insider http://bearingdrift.com/2009/04/01/poll-whos-getting-the-worst-deal-in-the-frederick-saga/#comment-15414 Loudoun Insider Wed, 01 Apr 2009 14:33:28 +0000 http://bearingdrift.com/?p=5583#comment-15414 Please stop with all this establishment nonsense. Frederick has been miserbale as a Chairman and has only further divided the party. Absolutely new blood is needed - I was never a Hager fan, but Frederick was not and is not the answer. Please stop with all this establishment nonsense. Frederick has been miserbale as a Chairman and has only further divided the party. Absolutely new blood is needed – I was never a Hager fan, but Frederick was not and is not the answer.

]]> By: PC http://bearingdrift.com/2009/04/01/poll-whos-getting-the-worst-deal-in-the-frederick-saga/#comment-15407 PC Wed, 01 Apr 2009 13:45:25 +0000 http://bearingdrift.com/?p=5583#comment-15407 This thing seems like it is more about petty political gripes than anything Frederick has ever done. The Hagar backers from the convention just want to control the party once the Republican Brand comes back. The Dems will eventually wear out their welcome, probably not until after Obama's reelection year, but the Establishment types in the GOP would like to grab the reigns and control the voice of opposition previous to that. This thing seems like it is more about petty political gripes than anything Frederick has ever done. The Hagar backers from the convention just want to control the party once the Republican Brand comes back. The Dems will eventually wear out their welcome, probably not until after Obama’s reelection year, but the Establishment types in the GOP would like to grab the reigns and control the voice of opposition previous to that.

]]> By: Lee Talley http://bearingdrift.com/2009/04/01/poll-whos-getting-the-worst-deal-in-the-frederick-saga/#comment-15406 Lee Talley Wed, 01 Apr 2009 13:35:40 +0000 http://bearingdrift.com/?p=5583#comment-15406 You are missing a choice. What about Amy Frederick. Her career as a legislator is over no matter what happens on Saturday. Jeff loses and she gets no support; Jeff wins and she's the target of payback to Jeff (I may not like Jeff but a mans family is off limits.). Personally if it was me I'd have fallen on my sword to keep my wifes candidacy viable. It is a shame Jeff is to vain to do that. You are missing a choice. What about Amy Frederick. Her career as a legislator is over no matter what happens on Saturday. Jeff loses and she gets no support; Jeff wins and she’s the target of payback to Jeff (I may not like Jeff but a mans family is off limits.). Personally if it was me I’d have fallen on my sword to keep my wifes candidacy viable. It is a shame Jeff is to vain to do that.

]]> By: Brian Kirwin http://bearingdrift.com/2009/04/01/poll-whos-getting-the-worst-deal-in-the-frederick-saga/#comment-15403 Brian Kirwin Wed, 01 Apr 2009 13:20:46 +0000 http://bearingdrift.com/?p=5583#comment-15403 "You can only fire the coach so many times before you have to start looking at the players." JR, you captured my thoughts perfectly in one sentence. “You can only fire the coach so many times before you have to start looking at the players.”

JR, you captured my thoughts perfectly in one sentence.

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