These units leaders also have to think about the future of the party and their unit. As an individual, and someone just blabbering on blogs, its easier for me to insist on fairness for Frederick. These units however, might get more political help for their local candidates if they side with whoever will win. They might individually even fear repercussions for not openly supporting the ouster. Some probably agree and some are just covering their interests.

Mr. Bedell – you are a great example of a real conservative who is pragmatic, respectable, and absolutely worthy of Republican leadership responsibility.

Bedell For RPV Chairman!

As I’ve said elsewhere, unless the people responsible for those positions in Alexandria, Fairfax, Virginia Beach, and Norfolk say otherwise, I think the reasonable assumption has to be that their reasons don’t include lack of RPV support for local elections (which is objectively better than it was before). Example: A helps B, then B denounces A. This does not equate to B saying A offered no help, particularly when the first proposition is demonstrably true.

On new media, I agree with you 100%. Really. I have two points to make, though. First, whatever legitimate gripes you have, it’s hard to deny that there has been marked improvement. Jeff should be fairly credited for that. Second, its our job to educate and work with those whose background and natural tendencies don’t easily mesh with technologies that haven’t always been a part of the political landscape. As valid as your criticisms are, it doesn’t do anyone any good to stay on the sidelines throwing brickbats, or to expect that someone else will just be able to wave a magic wand and make it happen…that would be an unfair criticism of John Hager, and even more so of Jeff Frederick. I’m somewhat familiar with the events you describe, but hope that you’ll keep trying, regardless of who is chairman.

The time has come at last
To throw away this mask
Now everyone can see
My true identity

I’m Kilroy

Kil-roy

Kil-roy

(Dunh dunh)

Anyone who suggest my motives are otherwise is an idiot.

Thank you.

…every locality that has had a special election this year has now had it’s local chair come out for Frederick’s removal?

Alexandria (Murray – 46th)
Fairfax (Herrity/Cook)
Virginia Beach (Knight – 81st)
Norfolk (Cog)

If RPV’s efforts on the ground have really seen such a marked improvement compared to previous years then why are the folks who have had to fight these fights in recent months supporting his removal?

I’d like to believe that Frederick has turned it around, I really would. But when these guys say no, well, I can’t buy the ground pounding improvement argument.

And while the website may be slick, RPV’s new media operations have largely been astroturf. The point of “new media” is the “social” aspect of it. Yes, we now have the RPVNetwork, but beyond that RPV has chosen instead to use new media as another means to merely dictate to the grassroots, not engage them. When Frederick was elected chairman a good number of the members of The Jeffersoniad helped draft a memo to him offering some pointers on new media. The response was an invitation to participate but what that meant was, “hey, blog for us.” It wasn’t an open invitation to actually provide input on how to go about things. That door has never been open and any efforts to help in the past have led to no response or worse – RPV staffers aggressively asserting toward bloggers that they don’t appreciate critical thoughts. In person. To their faces. At party functions.

Across the board grassroots activists have offered to help RPV in any number of areas, but Frederick has proven to be unopen and unresponsive to their overtures. For better or for worse…

These are filings from 2002 and 2003. You will have to go to the courthouse youself and request the files. They are highly entertaining. Espically the hearing transacripts.

You may not like him, and you may buy into the schtick that he’s an absolute embarrassment, but I think I have the facts on my side when I say that Frederick’s performance on the fundamentals of RPV operations is objectively better than we’ve had for at least a few years preceding his tenure.

http://dockets.justia.com/browse/state-virginia/court-vaedce/

and also I looked for some reference on the Judicial Watch page and couldn’t find anything. Are these recent filings? Have any direct links?

I openly admitted that I am a Frederick backer. I don’t sway from that unless he’s convicted of theft.

However, now you bash me and make disgusting remarks about “fellating” just because, I now believe that there is too much oppostion for Frederick to survive? ?????

I wish it wasn’t true but, at this point it looks like the firing will be successful. I admit that and you pillory me for that!?!!?

Just because you have no conviction, just because YOU can’t use your real name, and just because you would just walk away even if you were innocent and therby be branded a theif doesn’t mean you are any better than someone that does hold to principle.

Further, why don’t you look up Staw Man. Nice snappy quote, that George Will came up with but, it doesn’t apply. I have directly repeated what has been posted here and presented my objections to it.

Mr. Roboto, in short, instead of throwing words out like “fellating” and using clever remarks authored my someone else, why don’t you just go and “Fellate” yourself.

Judicial Watch v. GXS and Jeff Frederick 02-092A / 02-CV-692-A (Eastren District Court Virginia)

Larry Klayman v. Jeff Frederick 03-1521 (EGS) District Court DC
Larry Klayman v. Jeff Frederick 02-4855 Superious Court District of Columbia.

Don’t just read the online summary. Get the file and read it page by page.