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	<title>Comments on: Frederick&#8217;s Scorched Earth Policy</title>
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		<title>By: Spank That Donkey</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/03/18/fredericks-scorched-earth-policy/#comment-14853</link>
		<dc:creator>Spank That Donkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 01:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fact of the matter Steve/Britt:
Gov. Warner actually spent $200 million more in his first budget following Gov. Gilmore&#039;s last... Courtesy of the $1 Billion Surplus Gilmore built up.

You know for one year the Government was only able to spend less than 1% more than the previous year&#039;s budget during a recession.  Govt. actually had to live like the citizens who fund it... GASP!

Of course after that it was &#039;Game on&#039;.... as you describe.

The sad fact of this affair is that all those that clamored for more spending are those behind Frederick&#039;s ouster..... Did someone mention that the VA GOP Senators want Frederick gone?  Really, can&#039;t imagine why?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fact of the matter Steve/Britt:<br />
Gov. Warner actually spent $200 million more in his first budget following Gov. Gilmore&#8217;s last&#8230; Courtesy of the $1 Billion Surplus Gilmore built up.</p>
<p>You know for one year the Government was only able to spend less than 1% more than the previous year&#8217;s budget during a recession.  Govt. actually had to live like the citizens who fund it&#8230; GASP!</p>
<p>Of course after that it was &#8216;Game on&#8217;&#8230;. as you describe.</p>
<p>The sad fact of this affair is that all those that clamored for more spending are those behind Frederick&#8217;s ouster&#8230;.. Did someone mention that the VA GOP Senators want Frederick gone?  Really, can&#8217;t imagine why?</p>
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		<title>By: Britt Howard</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/03/18/fredericks-scorched-earth-policy/#comment-14806</link>
		<dc:creator>Britt Howard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 14:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve is absolutely right on target.

This is the same tactic used against Gilmore ever since he cut the car tax and left office. Gilmore was endlessly found guilty in the media for an economy shackled by a NATIONAL recession that was beyond his control. The contiuned charges were not adequately rebuffed and in the public&#039;s eye, Gilmore must have been bad for Virginia.

Steve you nailed it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve is absolutely right on target.</p>
<p>This is the same tactic used against Gilmore ever since he cut the car tax and left office. Gilmore was endlessly found guilty in the media for an economy shackled by a NATIONAL recession that was beyond his control. The contiuned charges were not adequately rebuffed and in the public&#8217;s eye, Gilmore must have been bad for Virginia.</p>
<p>Steve you nailed it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Roboto</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/03/18/fredericks-scorched-earth-policy/#comment-14799</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Roboto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 13:06:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love how Frederick&#039;s fans talk about facts and not letting maliciousness and mindless repetition have a part in the party.

Yet what kind of campaigns, tone and general demeanor has our illustrious chairman been noted for from the beginning?

Live by the sword, die by the sword, Steve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love how Frederick&#8217;s fans talk about facts and not letting maliciousness and mindless repetition have a part in the party.</p>
<p>Yet what kind of campaigns, tone and general demeanor has our illustrious chairman been noted for from the beginning?</p>
<p>Live by the sword, die by the sword, Steve.</p>
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		<title>By: Spank That Donkey</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/03/18/fredericks-scorched-earth-policy/#comment-14795</link>
		<dc:creator>Spank That Donkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 06:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Commentary by Jason Kenney cross-posted at J’s Notes. Opinions expressed here to not necessarily reflect those of Bearing Drift.&quot;

Then why post it on BD?

No Guts, but its Gory!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Commentary by Jason Kenney cross-posted at J’s Notes. Opinions expressed here to not necessarily reflect those of Bearing Drift.&#8221;</p>
<p>Then why post it on BD?</p>
<p>No Guts, but its Gory!</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Albertson</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/03/18/fredericks-scorched-earth-policy/#comment-14793</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Albertson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 04:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roboto: the only argument along those lines that one can reasonably infer from what I wrote is that if the unit chairmen in those districts oppose Jeff Frederick, it&#039;s probably for something other than the vastly improved support for local elections provided by RPV now, relative to RPV before Jeff Frederick was elected.

This entire episode has been fueled in large part by a host of innocent misconceptions conflated with malicious innuendo and amplified by endless repetition.  It&#039;s run rampant, IMHO, in part because people tend to lend credence to unrebutted charges, whether they are true or not.  Left unchecked, untrue charges soon gain the weight of truth.  Need an example?  Ask a typical voter whether Sarah Palin ever actually said she could see Russia from her house.

I guess what I&#039;m saying is that the same type of thing (albeit a lot less funny) is true here, where after sampling the internet echo chamber many people seem to have have become primed to believe just about anything negative they read about Jeff Frederick (see, e.g., Roboto&#039;s charming last sentence).  We&#039;re all Republicans here, so I think it&#039;s important that we be careful not to feed that phenomenon, whether you like Frederick or not.  If the effort against him has legs, let those legs be actual facts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roboto: the only argument along those lines that one can reasonably infer from what I wrote is that if the unit chairmen in those districts oppose Jeff Frederick, it&#8217;s probably for something other than the vastly improved support for local elections provided by RPV now, relative to RPV before Jeff Frederick was elected.</p>
<p>This entire episode has been fueled in large part by a host of innocent misconceptions conflated with malicious innuendo and amplified by endless repetition.  It&#8217;s run rampant, IMHO, in part because people tend to lend credence to unrebutted charges, whether they are true or not.  Left unchecked, untrue charges soon gain the weight of truth.  Need an example?  Ask a typical voter whether Sarah Palin ever actually said she could see Russia from her house.</p>
<p>I guess what I&#8217;m saying is that the same type of thing (albeit a lot less funny) is true here, where after sampling the internet echo chamber many people seem to have have become primed to believe just about anything negative they read about Jeff Frederick (see, e.g., Roboto&#8217;s charming last sentence).  We&#8217;re all Republicans here, so I think it&#8217;s important that we be careful not to feed that phenomenon, whether you like Frederick or not.  If the effort against him has legs, let those legs be actual facts.</p>
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		<title>By: Loudoun Insider</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/03/18/fredericks-scorched-earth-policy/#comment-14790</link>
		<dc:creator>Loudoun Insider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 04:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Domo arigato, Mr. Roboto.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Domo arigato, Mr. Roboto.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Roboto</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/03/18/fredericks-scorched-earth-policy/#comment-14776</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Roboto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 01:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess Steve A.&#039;s assertion that Fredrick somehow was like manna from heaven to those involved in special elections doesn&#039;t quite fly any more now that every one of those chairmen have come out for Jeff&#039;s removal.

This guy has been worse than a boil on the ass of the body politic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess Steve A.&#8217;s assertion that Fredrick somehow was like manna from heaven to those involved in special elections doesn&#8217;t quite fly any more now that every one of those chairmen have come out for Jeff&#8217;s removal.</p>
<p>This guy has been worse than a boil on the ass of the body politic.</p>
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		<title>By: Morning Line - March 19, 2009 : Delmarva Dealings</title>
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		<dc:creator>Morning Line - March 19, 2009 : Delmarva Dealings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 15:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] RPV Chair Jeff Frederick goes on offensive to save job.&#160; Best coverage to be found on Bearing Drift. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] RPV Chair Jeff Frederick goes on offensive to save job.&nbsp; Best coverage to be found on Bearing Drift. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Albertson</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/03/18/fredericks-scorched-earth-policy/#comment-14758</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Albertson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 14:31:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason,

You write, &quot;It wasn’t RPV fighting in the trenches last year, it was assorted organizations working around RPV.  2009 looks to be the same, especially if one looks to Joe Murray’s fight in the 46th, the same district that contains the Alexandria City committee that voted almost unanimously to support Frederick’s removal.&quot;

I don&#039;t know all the details, but I do know that RPV was quite active in the campaigns where you suggest they were absent, including Joe Murray&#039;s and Pat Herrity&#039;s races.  I am pretty sure there was a wide range of assistance provided, but I know for a fact that included having paid staff on the ground to augment the efforts by the candidates and the local committees.  One can contrast this with what constituted business as usual before Frederick took over: LeAnn Washington&#039;s bid to fill Rob Wittmann&#039;s House of Delegates seat in early 2008.  In that race RPV provided scarely more than words of encouragement...no staff on the ground, no imported volunteers, no significant money,.  Result?  A heavily GOP district was lost by an embarrassing margin.

I understand where you&#039;re largely coming from, but I think this and other issues (like your apparent certainty that Frederick is behind the robocalls despite his disavowal of any knowledge or connection to it) suggest that you&#039;re not coming to this controversy with an open mind.  That&#039;s fair enough, but I&#039;d at least ask you to not repeat the demonstrable mistake of saying RPV hasn&#039;t been in the trenches, when very much the opposite has been true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason,</p>
<p>You write, &#8220;It wasn’t RPV fighting in the trenches last year, it was assorted organizations working around RPV.  2009 looks to be the same, especially if one looks to Joe Murray’s fight in the 46th, the same district that contains the Alexandria City committee that voted almost unanimously to support Frederick’s removal.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know all the details, but I do know that RPV was quite active in the campaigns where you suggest they were absent, including Joe Murray&#8217;s and Pat Herrity&#8217;s races.  I am pretty sure there was a wide range of assistance provided, but I know for a fact that included having paid staff on the ground to augment the efforts by the candidates and the local committees.  One can contrast this with what constituted business as usual before Frederick took over: LeAnn Washington&#8217;s bid to fill Rob Wittmann&#8217;s House of Delegates seat in early 2008.  In that race RPV provided scarely more than words of encouragement&#8230;no staff on the ground, no imported volunteers, no significant money,.  Result?  A heavily GOP district was lost by an embarrassing margin.</p>
<p>I understand where you&#8217;re largely coming from, but I think this and other issues (like your apparent certainty that Frederick is behind the robocalls despite his disavowal of any knowledge or connection to it) suggest that you&#8217;re not coming to this controversy with an open mind.  That&#8217;s fair enough, but I&#8217;d at least ask you to not repeat the demonstrable mistake of saying RPV hasn&#8217;t been in the trenches, when very much the opposite has been true.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/03/18/fredericks-scorched-earth-policy/#comment-14751</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 11:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aaron Gulbransen:

Quite the contrary, I think blogs have performed a valuble service in pressuring the factions to get information into the public.  This way rank-and-file Republicans can have a more informed opinion in this important issue and express it to their SCC members.

I&#039;d like to see even more evidence out there from both sides.  I&#039;m sure there is material that cannot be released due to its sensitive nature, but I think there&#039;s more material that neither side is releasing because they&#039;re playing an inside game.

SCC is supposed to represent grassroots Republicans.  That only works if grassroots Republicans know what&#039;s going on and can lobby the SCC members they elected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aaron Gulbransen:</p>
<p>Quite the contrary, I think blogs have performed a valuble service in pressuring the factions to get information into the public.  This way rank-and-file Republicans can have a more informed opinion in this important issue and express it to their SCC members.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to see even more evidence out there from both sides.  I&#8217;m sure there is material that cannot be released due to its sensitive nature, but I think there&#8217;s more material that neither side is releasing because they&#8217;re playing an inside game.</p>
<p>SCC is supposed to represent grassroots Republicans.  That only works if grassroots Republicans know what&#8217;s going on and can lobby the SCC members they elected.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Gulbransen</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/03/18/fredericks-scorched-earth-policy/#comment-14745</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Gulbransen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 06:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ugh, Max. Stop talking out of your ass. Let the process run its course and hold judgment until after.

This is a problem with blogs. Often we wind up back where we were in high school, gossiping about the popular (and unpopular) kids.

We air too much of our dirty laundry on here. 

I know, I sound like a self-hater now but I wish we&#039;d all exercise more restraint on here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ugh, Max. Stop talking out of your ass. Let the process run its course and hold judgment until after.</p>
<p>This is a problem with blogs. Often we wind up back where we were in high school, gossiping about the popular (and unpopular) kids.</p>
<p>We air too much of our dirty laundry on here. </p>
<p>I know, I sound like a self-hater now but I wish we&#8217;d all exercise more restraint on here.</p>
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		<title>By: Max Shapiro</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/03/18/fredericks-scorched-earth-policy/#comment-14742</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Shapiro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 05:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Republican Party is a joke, whats going on here with Frederick is evidence enough. I would be a better chairman in terms of logistical management than anyone. Unless you have read and understand the Art of War you truly have no business anywhere near political leadership of the RPV Chairman&#039;s magnitude.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Republican Party is a joke, whats going on here with Frederick is evidence enough. I would be a better chairman in terms of logistical management than anyone. Unless you have read and understand the Art of War you truly have no business anywhere near political leadership of the RPV Chairman&#8217;s magnitude.</p>
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		<title>By: Max Shapiro</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/03/18/fredericks-scorched-earth-policy/#comment-14741</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Shapiro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 05:00:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lee Talley,

There was most certainly an effort to remove Jeff Frederick at the Homestead. There was talk of it from many on the executive and state central committees, and to my knowledge a resolution had been formally drafted. The actual vote never took place because those who were conspiring knew they did not have the required votes. I was working for a member of the executive committee from the time Frederick was elected until last month. I can assure you that these people have been out for Frederick&#039;s head in a far less public way for a long time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lee Talley,</p>
<p>There was most certainly an effort to remove Jeff Frederick at the Homestead. There was talk of it from many on the executive and state central committees, and to my knowledge a resolution had been formally drafted. The actual vote never took place because those who were conspiring knew they did not have the required votes. I was working for a member of the executive committee from the time Frederick was elected until last month. I can assure you that these people have been out for Frederick&#8217;s head in a far less public way for a long time.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee Talley</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/03/18/fredericks-scorched-earth-policy/#comment-14737</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee Talley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 04:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Max
I was there at the Homestead and can surely tell you that DID NOT happen. Please you cant tell lies while calling others liars... its bad form dude

At the end of the day... whats more important the Republican Party or Jeff Frederick... pick one cause obviously we cant have both.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Max<br />
I was there at the Homestead and can surely tell you that DID NOT happen. Please you cant tell lies while calling others liars&#8230; its bad form dude</p>
<p>At the end of the day&#8230; whats more important the Republican Party or Jeff Frederick&#8230; pick one cause obviously we cant have both.</p>
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		<title>By: mytwocents</title>
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		<dc:creator>mytwocents</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 01:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frederick became chair the day Gilmore received the nomination. Twittergate became public because the dems pay attention to the opposition.  Obviously I am not changing your mind nor would I want to but when the entire delegation of Republican Congressman and your candidate for governor want you out its time to go, period. Not to mention every GOP state senator minus 1. Even the ultra conservatives in the state senate like Newman and Obenshain. Party&#039;s over. 

Frederick would have been better suited for running for governor or lt governor again McDonnell or Bolling not RPV chair were you actually have to play well with all types of Republicans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frederick became chair the day Gilmore received the nomination. Twittergate became public because the dems pay attention to the opposition.  Obviously I am not changing your mind nor would I want to but when the entire delegation of Republican Congressman and your candidate for governor want you out its time to go, period. Not to mention every GOP state senator minus 1. Even the ultra conservatives in the state senate like Newman and Obenshain. Party&#8217;s over. </p>
<p>Frederick would have been better suited for running for governor or lt governor again McDonnell or Bolling not RPV chair were you actually have to play well with all types of Republicans.</p>
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