Pro-Frederick Robocalls Spread
Last week pro-Frederick robocalls started going out hitting Mike Thomas and Bob McDonnell for their involvement in the process to remove Frederick as RPV Chairman.
Word is those calls have spread to the fifth district, now attacking Tucker Watkins by name and blaming him personally for Virgil Goode’s loss this past November.
Again the group has identified themselves as Grassroots Republicans but still no word as to who these “grassroots Republicans” are or where they are getting the money for these calls.
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I’ve tried to keep out of this. But I know that at least 4 of the charges out of those 10 are without strong factual basis. Those charges are not so much Frederick’s fault as they are the SCC and EC sabotaging Frederick every chance they got. Number 10 is the funniest one because I still have the entire E-mail conversation between the SCC, EC, and Frederick. Its a joke, someone sent an e-mail with the same server address as RPV and to e-mail addresses that Mike Wade thought could only have been obtained through hacking the server. The SCC and EC are computer illiterate and do not understand that the RPV server address is shared with other computers in the area on the same hosting service/system. The e-mail addresses could have been garnered from any of a dozen places on the internet. Frederick is not totally innocent, but none of those charges would exist if the SCC and EC had not been purposefully trying to sabotage him.
The budget issue is a complete falsehood. I received the budget with more than adequate time to review all 2 pages of the spreadsheet and the 10 or so pages of explanation. It took me not more than an hour to print it off the computer, put it in a folder for my boss, and digest everything it said. The voting issue was because no one bothered to second Frederick’s motions.
Even if Frederick survives by a few votes it will not matter because he cant raise any money from the business community and the RNC will do what they did last year just work around him and give money directly to McDonnell.
John;
It’s always funny when someone thinking he knows something just has to run his mouth to prove the opposite is true.
The RNC very often gives money directly to campaigns, and furthermore, during Hager’s ’08 tenure RPV raised appx $2,000.00 on the internet in five months.
Under Frederick, in seven months, they raised 75,000.
I guess you want to go back to Hager, but i sure don’t.
Are you aware that Jeff raised 1,3 Million for a house of delegates race?
I guess all that came from the money tree in his back yard!
Jeff may actually have a case for a defamation lawsuit, and though that obviously will not apply to you, you should still at least be attempting to have integrity here rather than trying to prove you know something.
When one really knows something he is able to give facts.
Wow Tim 75K raised… well then how much of that in relation to charge number 1 went into the coffers of JFraud’s company? about 5,300 dollars if my math serves me correct. 5,300 dollars stolen from every Republican in Virginia. Tim really all those charges come down to one thing a lack of integrity. You can’t have a chairman of any party, even the NAMBLA loving libertarian party that you obviously belong to or as some blogs have said the other God hating. Pro-Abortion, Gun Hating Liberal democrat party to which you may also belong. Heck, maybe you belong to both you sound like a guy who goes both ways if you ask me., Your statement of support also shows the case that its not fundraising Jeff did but it was a handout from the RNC. Sad Tim Sad. You don’t even know the party plan to know the simple rules being followed to remove Jeff.
Tim – Internet is fine, but how much money has been raised compared between the two overall? In the case of more online, is that new donors and money or is that old donors using a new means to pay through a service run by Jeff Frederick’s company that also takes a cut?
I think all of us are looking for the facts, so more details would be appreciated.
Also, wasn’t most if not all Advance registration forced through the website?
Ultimately, it’s about overall dollars if you’re going to talk fundraising numbers.
How about posting the the reponse from Chairman Frederick. An email was sent out to all those on the GOP list I believe which goes over point by point each so-called charge against him and calls out those that have been working from the inside against him since his convention victory for Chair.
I find it rather shameful that all these people are wasting time, energy and resources in this manner at this juncture in Virginia politics and given its an election year for Governor. Are they afraid of the new frontier, the new GOP maybe or simply worried that their station in the Party may come under attack. This is alot about egos and old wounds and less about Virginia. I was asked by a few to use my soapbox (blog) to influence this outcome since I did not support Frederick and the assumption was since I did not that I would help in tear him and the GOP down along with him. Sorry, as our young people say- I do not roll that way!!!
[...] robo-calls are spreading, starting last week against Mike Thomas and Bob McDonnell, this week spreading to Tucker Watkins and others. Frederick came out yesterday with his defense against the SCC’s ten charges [...]
Tucker Watkins is a wonderful man and an incredible Republican who has worked tirelessly for the 5th District.
I had heard the same accusations against Tucker being used in Lynchburg a few weeks ago, before those robo-calls, so I’m sure there’s more to them than Jeff Frederick. As a matter of fact, there’s one person who’s commented in this thread whose name was attached to that group.
Politics is politics; and while I consider both Tucker and Jeff to be wonderful men, I’m sure that they both believe in the things that they’re each standing up for in all of this. There will always be two sides to every issue; and without being privy to everything that has taken place, none of us can say directly what’s right and what’s wrong in all of this.
But, to throw Tucker Watkins into this by pointing fingers at him is grossly a low blow to a man who has dedicated all of his time to Virginia Republicans. We’d be hard-stretched to find another, district chairman who travels his entire district regularly to be there with his units. He receives hundreds of e-mails each day, trying to respond to everything that he can. He spends endless hours on the phone, working for Virginia Republicans. Tom Periello waged an ugly, low down campaign against Virgil Goode. The loss was by such a narrow margin as a result, which Tucker still wages the war against in the courts.
I, for one and am among many, know that we’re lucky to have Tucker, and I thank him.
I did receive one of the robo calls, and found it quite unremarkable. I find it quite humorous when the Tuckers of the world can level essentially criminal charges against Jeff Frederick in full public view and there’s no expectation of a “negative reaction” to that. Then someone hits back and it’s “tearing down a fellow Republican!”
As soon as the elected officials themselves are actually held to account it’s “negative” and “low.” It’s all the more odd when criticism of Tucker for his public positions is “low.” Tucker’s entire ten-year record in the Fifth District is one of a lack of satisfaction with mere political defeat of his opponents.
Tucker’s tenure is littered with the carcasses of those whom he has smeared with unsubstantiated personal charges, whether weak “criminal” charges against Jeff, or totally false marital accusations against conservative opposition within his own district.
I’m sorry, but refusal to hold our “leaders” accountable is what’s gotten us the corrupt, earmark-happy, power-crazed “Gross Out Party” that can’t win jack in VIRGINIA, or all places. The crybaby responses from those who expected to do a hatchet job on Jeff with no repercussions just highlights why the term “Republican leaders” is such an oxymoron. It also bodes very ill for our chances against Terry McAuliffe, who is nothing if not tough.
Personally, if our “leaders” can’t take the heat, I recommend getting out of the kitchen and letting us find true conservative leadership. At the very least, I’d recommend not throwing punches if they can’t handle a defensive swing in return.
Frankly, Jeff and his defenders didn’t start this. But in the eternal struggle against the top-down power that our Republican leaders seem determined to represent, I say, “Go, Jeff.” And to the whiners, how about stepping aside and letting some MEN step up to leadership?
I only ask readers not to be too blindly accepting of the self-promotional rhetoric from our politicians.
Based on nothing more than a transcript, there is no telling who instigated the robocalls. What is absurd; however, is to try to add such a thing to the list of charges.
This is a political contest. Frederick’s opponents within the party have attacked his integrity. To suggest that they don’t have politics in mind is a hoot. Look at the discussion here. A large part of it is about fund raising — as if Frederick’s only job as the head of the RPV is fund raising. It is as if the contest between Hager and Frederick were never settled. In fact, the unwillingness of some to accept Frederick’s leadership seems to be at the root of the controversy.
Right now, the RPV’s primary task is to make the Republican label meaningful, and Frederick has been going around admitting that elected Republicans have not be voting like Republicans. Do you think that does not have a few elected Republicans upset? Of course it does. Elected officials too often have big egos. Is it possible that same charge does not sit well with some of the folks on the SCC too?
If elected Republicans cannot be trusted to stand by the Republican Creed, the party has almost no reason to exist. Have elected Republicans been standing by the Republican Creed? We all know the answer to that question, and that answer should please no one.
Yet these same elected officials are blaming Frederick for losing. NUTS!