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	<title>Comments on: AP: 10 Charges to Jeff Frederick</title>
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		<title>By: katalogi stron</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/03/12/ap-10-charges-to-jeff-frederick/#comment-50350</link>
		<dc:creator>katalogi stron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2010 12:58:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m here by accident. I started reading and I must tell you that your blog is great. You are writing so many interesting things. I disagree with many of them, but it&#039;s ok. I will probably visit your blog more often. I would like to use your words on my own blog. Can I?May I? - Paula</description>
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		<title>By: ShaunKenney.com &#187; RPV State Central: THE FINAL ANALYSIS</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/03/12/ap-10-charges-to-jeff-frederick/#comment-15559</link>
		<dc:creator>ShaunKenney.com &#187; RPV State Central: THE FINAL ANALYSIS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 03:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Let&#8217;s focus on the first charge, which is probably the most damaging: 1. Failure to transmit, in a timely manner, online contributions made to the Republican Party of Virginia and processed by his own company. Withholding 7% of online contributions made to the RPV for a period of weeks during the summer of 2008 after repeatedly assuring the Executive Committee that he was not using his company as a vendor for RPV.  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Let&#8217;s focus on the first charge, which is probably the most damaging: 1. Failure to transmit, in a timely manner, online contributions made to the Republican Party of Virginia and processed by his own company. Withholding 7% of online contributions made to the RPV for a period of weeks during the summer of 2008 after repeatedly assuring the Executive Committee that he was not using his company as a vendor for RPV.  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Are There Legal Issues For Frederick? &#124; Bearing Drift :: Virginia Politics and Podcasts</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/03/12/ap-10-charges-to-jeff-frederick/#comment-15355</link>
		<dc:creator>Are There Legal Issues For Frederick? &#124; Bearing Drift :: Virginia Politics and Podcasts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to why Frederick would seek counsel and many Frederick supporters have contended that none of the ten points the SCC filed against Frederick amount to illegal [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Video: Sneak Peek- What Happens When Jeffery &#8220;M&#8221; Frederick Gets in a Room with The VA GOP Grassroots April 4? &#171; Rappahannock Red</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/03/12/ap-10-charges-to-jeff-frederick/#comment-15001</link>
		<dc:creator>Video: Sneak Peek- What Happens When Jeffery &#8220;M&#8221; Frederick Gets in a Room with The VA GOP Grassroots April 4? &#171; Rappahannock Red</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] has a long list of accusations to which he&#8217;s responded verbosely to excuse all of them (read like O.J. Simpson).  Even if [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] has a long list of accusations to which he&#8217;s responded verbosely to excuse all of them (read like O.J. Simpson).  Even if [...]</p>
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		<title>By: HOW CAN WE TELL WHEN WE ARE IN OVER OUR HEADS &#171; Citizen Tom</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/03/12/ap-10-charges-to-jeff-frederick/#comment-14875</link>
		<dc:creator>HOW CAN WE TELL WHEN WE ARE IN OVER OUR HEADS &#171; Citizen Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 16:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Here Bearing Drift lists the charges.  There are ten of them.  What a nice round number! [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jason Kenney</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/03/12/ap-10-charges-to-jeff-frederick/#comment-14749</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Kenney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 11:34:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ed - It is my understanding that &quot;it took this long for the letter to get out&quot; because it was meant to be a private matter between SCC and Jeff Frederick.  And angry delegates weren&#039;t there because Jeff Frederick fired them up but because Bob Marshall did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed &#8211; It is my understanding that &#8220;it took this long for the letter to get out&#8221; because it was meant to be a private matter between SCC and Jeff Frederick.  And angry delegates weren&#8217;t there because Jeff Frederick fired them up but because Bob Marshall did.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Drain</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/03/12/ap-10-charges-to-jeff-frederick/#comment-14740</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Drain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 04:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh please!  If any member of the SCC had any actual evidence of him keeping money, there would be no meeting, no vote, no controversy.  He&#039;d be in jail right now.  The fact that he isn&#039;t should be enough to poke some holes in your embarassing attempt to steal Mr. Frederick away from his duly elected post.

The very fact that it took this long for the letter to get out reeks of backroom deals and armtwisting in an attempt at a secret coup.  

The instigators of this shameful power grab ought to think long and hard about how tenous thier positions really are, given that they have likely kicked over the hornet&#039;s nest of thousands of angry delegates who voted Jeff in fair and square.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh please!  If any member of the SCC had any actual evidence of him keeping money, there would be no meeting, no vote, no controversy.  He&#8217;d be in jail right now.  The fact that he isn&#8217;t should be enough to poke some holes in your embarassing attempt to steal Mr. Frederick away from his duly elected post.</p>
<p>The very fact that it took this long for the letter to get out reeks of backroom deals and armtwisting in an attempt at a secret coup.  </p>
<p>The instigators of this shameful power grab ought to think long and hard about how tenous thier positions really are, given that they have likely kicked over the hornet&#8217;s nest of thousands of angry delegates who voted Jeff in fair and square.</p>
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		<title>By: &#8220;Jeff&#8217;s a fighter&#8221; &#124; Bearing Drift :: Virginia Politics and Podcasts</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/03/12/ap-10-charges-to-jeff-frederick/#comment-14665</link>
		<dc:creator>&#8220;Jeff&#8217;s a fighter&#8221; &#124; Bearing Drift :: Virginia Politics and Podcasts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the next few weeks, we may see each side roll out support for their various positions, but the letter or intent by the State Central Committee late last week and Chairman Jeff Frederick&#8217;s letter to the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the next few weeks, we may see each side roll out support for their various positions, but the letter or intent by the State Central Committee late last week and Chairman Jeff Frederick&#8217;s letter to the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Notice of Removal Attempt: RPV Chairman Jeff Frederick</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/03/12/ap-10-charges-to-jeff-frederick/#comment-14617</link>
		<dc:creator>Notice of Removal Attempt: RPV Chairman Jeff Frederick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 02:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] You can find the complete letter at Bearing Drift. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: RepubMom</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/03/12/ap-10-charges-to-jeff-frederick/#comment-14611</link>
		<dc:creator>RepubMom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 01:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could someone explain to me why JF would have a &quot;personal&quot;-type account where RPV funds would go and be &quot;held&quot;?  Why would online contributions not go straight into an RPV account?  If I read this correctly, someone besides JF needs to be ousted for sheer stupidity in setting up the party&#039;s banking structure.  Someone please clear this up as I&#039;m new to the Republican infrastructure.

And, good job, Fred Newbrough!  You are they type of person the party needs more of!  Workers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could someone explain to me why JF would have a &#8220;personal&#8221;-type account where RPV funds would go and be &#8220;held&#8221;?  Why would online contributions not go straight into an RPV account?  If I read this correctly, someone besides JF needs to be ousted for sheer stupidity in setting up the party&#8217;s banking structure.  Someone please clear this up as I&#8217;m new to the Republican infrastructure.</p>
<p>And, good job, Fred Newbrough!  You are they type of person the party needs more of!  Workers!</p>
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		<title>By: Britt Howard</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/03/12/ap-10-charges-to-jeff-frederick/#comment-14586</link>
		<dc:creator>Britt Howard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 01:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said Fred Newbrough! 

At least some people recognize suicide when they see it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said Fred Newbrough! </p>
<p>At least some people recognize suicide when they see it!</p>
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		<title>By: Fred Newbrough</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/03/12/ap-10-charges-to-jeff-frederick/#comment-14574</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred Newbrough</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 00:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I find interesting is how much a lot of this is sour grapes. As for what I consider the primary charge. 

&quot;Withholding 7% of online contributions made to the RPV for a period of weeks during the summer of 2008 after repeatedly assuring the Executive Committee that he was not using his company as a vendor for RPV. [ed. Chairman Frederick called this allegation &quot;False and without merit&quot;. Please see this post which includes a payment to Frederick&#039;s company.]&quot;

The only amount that I&#039;ve seen that was withheld was less than $2,000 and if it indeed was only for a period of weeks then what is the fuss about? It was not as if Jeff made any money off this deal. 

I think what needs to happen is we all need to stop this fighting. It is stupid. Jeff ruffled some feathers in his attempt to re-org things and he has made some mistakes but the biggest mistakes I&#039;ve seen have not rested with Jeff Frederick. I remember when many of those attacking Jeff now refused to endorse enthusiastically our Senate candidate, the honorable Gov Jim Gilmore. I remember how the McCain campaign couldn&#039;t decide whether they wanted to fight or bend over. One day they were attacking Obama, the next they were apologizing and saying how great a person he was. I also was surprised about the lack of GOTV and it was in stark contrast to the Obama machine.

I signed up as a volunteer for Obama so I could monitor what was going on and every week I received a call from a volunteer who was imploring me to get out and help. The Obama folks had several dozen people in Chester every weekend. Sometimes we had none. I know Chester wasn&#039;t in play but I don&#039;t understand what the point of having people sign up if you aren&#039;t going to call or email them. I work 50-60 hours a week traveling and every weekend I could I was out going door to door. I drafted my daughter and son and even took a stroller out when my wife couldn&#039;t keep my two little boys and no one showed up to help. I also worked tirelessly for Gov. Gilmore and had to listen to disgusting Republicans who had been convinced he left the state&#039;s finances in a mess which was an absolute lie but the same petty politics that is on display now in the attacks on Frederick are were on display among many in this state concerning Gilmore. Many of these central committee members did not do their jobs in providing a unified front. They sat by passively and some even added to the fire offering veiled attacks. Never have I been so disappointed except now.

Come one people, the people we should be fighting are the liberals who are literally destroying the country we love. Someone needs to throw down an olive branch and work something out. Jeff was elected to his term. The allegations up to this point have been specious and rather small. I think Jeff himself could help things by calling a press conference and simply throwing down this olive branch. We need to get our act together and stop just talking about how bad the other guy is because that is a fact but people need to see the alternative they will be voting for.
We have failed in that respect by equivocating when we should be speaking clearly and confidently on what we believe. Right now what people are seeing more and more every day is an ugly smallness. I&#039;ve never dreamed I&#039;d see some of the stuff from Eric, Bob, and others who I&#039;ve always had respect for. Come on get together behind closed doors and reach a compromise that everyone can live with without crucifying our Chairman over small stuff. Keith Olbermann may call Jeff the &quot;Worst Person in the World&quot; but we shouldn&#039;t be taking up his talking points. The Democrats never would be taking apart one of their own like this especially not a chairman over such weak sour grapes charges. There is no need for this fire. If anyone needs removed it is our National Chair who has seemed to have lost his mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I find interesting is how much a lot of this is sour grapes. As for what I consider the primary charge. </p>
<p>&#8220;Withholding 7% of online contributions made to the RPV for a period of weeks during the summer of 2008 after repeatedly assuring the Executive Committee that he was not using his company as a vendor for RPV. [ed. Chairman Frederick called this allegation "False and without merit". Please see this post which includes a payment to Frederick's company.]&#8221;</p>
<p>The only amount that I&#8217;ve seen that was withheld was less than $2,000 and if it indeed was only for a period of weeks then what is the fuss about? It was not as if Jeff made any money off this deal. </p>
<p>I think what needs to happen is we all need to stop this fighting. It is stupid. Jeff ruffled some feathers in his attempt to re-org things and he has made some mistakes but the biggest mistakes I&#8217;ve seen have not rested with Jeff Frederick. I remember when many of those attacking Jeff now refused to endorse enthusiastically our Senate candidate, the honorable Gov Jim Gilmore. I remember how the McCain campaign couldn&#8217;t decide whether they wanted to fight or bend over. One day they were attacking Obama, the next they were apologizing and saying how great a person he was. I also was surprised about the lack of GOTV and it was in stark contrast to the Obama machine.</p>
<p>I signed up as a volunteer for Obama so I could monitor what was going on and every week I received a call from a volunteer who was imploring me to get out and help. The Obama folks had several dozen people in Chester every weekend. Sometimes we had none. I know Chester wasn&#8217;t in play but I don&#8217;t understand what the point of having people sign up if you aren&#8217;t going to call or email them. I work 50-60 hours a week traveling and every weekend I could I was out going door to door. I drafted my daughter and son and even took a stroller out when my wife couldn&#8217;t keep my two little boys and no one showed up to help. I also worked tirelessly for Gov. Gilmore and had to listen to disgusting Republicans who had been convinced he left the state&#8217;s finances in a mess which was an absolute lie but the same petty politics that is on display now in the attacks on Frederick are were on display among many in this state concerning Gilmore. Many of these central committee members did not do their jobs in providing a unified front. They sat by passively and some even added to the fire offering veiled attacks. Never have I been so disappointed except now.</p>
<p>Come one people, the people we should be fighting are the liberals who are literally destroying the country we love. Someone needs to throw down an olive branch and work something out. Jeff was elected to his term. The allegations up to this point have been specious and rather small. I think Jeff himself could help things by calling a press conference and simply throwing down this olive branch. We need to get our act together and stop just talking about how bad the other guy is because that is a fact but people need to see the alternative they will be voting for.<br />
We have failed in that respect by equivocating when we should be speaking clearly and confidently on what we believe. Right now what people are seeing more and more every day is an ugly smallness. I&#8217;ve never dreamed I&#8217;d see some of the stuff from Eric, Bob, and others who I&#8217;ve always had respect for. Come on get together behind closed doors and reach a compromise that everyone can live with without crucifying our Chairman over small stuff. Keith Olbermann may call Jeff the &#8220;Worst Person in the World&#8221; but we shouldn&#8217;t be taking up his talking points. The Democrats never would be taking apart one of their own like this especially not a chairman over such weak sour grapes charges. There is no need for this fire. If anyone needs removed it is our National Chair who has seemed to have lost his mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Britt Howard</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/03/12/ap-10-charges-to-jeff-frederick/#comment-14560</link>
		<dc:creator>Britt Howard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 17:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who knows Dan? Maybe there has been. Maybe there have been previous &quot;incidents&quot;. We don&#039;t know.


I say Frederick did nothing wrong and this is a bunch of BS spin and airing of procedural objections.  I don&#039;t know but, there might have been past procedural abuse before Frederick held the position. That was ok then though right? Because somebody else was on the losing end? Or maybe there is absolutely NOTHING and this is a political &quot;Hit&quot;.

As of now, all I see is allegations and the smearing of Frederick&#039;s name.

If it isn&#039;t &quot;smoke&quot; and crimes DID occur then take legal action.


Put up or shut up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who knows Dan? Maybe there has been. Maybe there have been previous &#8220;incidents&#8221;. We don&#8217;t know.</p>
<p>I say Frederick did nothing wrong and this is a bunch of BS spin and airing of procedural objections.  I don&#8217;t know but, there might have been past procedural abuse before Frederick held the position. That was ok then though right? Because somebody else was on the losing end? Or maybe there is absolutely NOTHING and this is a political &#8220;Hit&#8221;.</p>
<p>As of now, all I see is allegations and the smearing of Frederick&#8217;s name.</p>
<p>If it isn&#8217;t &#8220;smoke&#8221; and crimes DID occur then take legal action.</p>
<p>Put up or shut up.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Evans</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/03/12/ap-10-charges-to-jeff-frederick/#comment-14559</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 17:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I cannot believe we are even having this &quot;conversation&quot;.

Who else in RPV history has even prompted discussions of criminal charges?

This ain&#039;t just smoke.  Frederick is a lying, thieving, hypocritical figure.  He should have never been entrusted with the party&#039;s duties or monies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cannot believe we are even having this &#8220;conversation&#8221;.</p>
<p>Who else in RPV history has even prompted discussions of criminal charges?</p>
<p>This ain&#8217;t just smoke.  Frederick is a lying, thieving, hypocritical figure.  He should have never been entrusted with the party&#8217;s duties or monies.</p>
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		<title>By: Britt Howard</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/03/12/ap-10-charges-to-jeff-frederick/#comment-14548</link>
		<dc:creator>Britt Howard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 23:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There seems to be answers for the skimming and it looks like the merchant account story goes along the line of truth. I haven&#039;t heard about the $1,300 or so that he is accused of taking being answered.

Who am I to believe? The answer should be simple. I agree with you. If it is believed that he committed a crime, bring him up on charges. Then us Frederick backers can be told an objective eye investigated this rather than political hitmen.

The additional beneifit would come of knowing that future chairmen would think twice about helping themselves to the RPV goody basket. They would never know when some political opportunists would come after them with the law. Party money wouldn&#039;t be wasted on perks an unethical expenses. There would be precendence for cleaning house and putting criminals in jail. That&#039;s a good thing.

So, I agree with you, bring him up on charges. Then we&#039;ll all know the truth. Frederick goes to jail or some of you face slander/libel suits. Future party chairs find out they get watched. It is a win-win!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There seems to be answers for the skimming and it looks like the merchant account story goes along the line of truth. I haven&#8217;t heard about the $1,300 or so that he is accused of taking being answered.</p>
<p>Who am I to believe? The answer should be simple. I agree with you. If it is believed that he committed a crime, bring him up on charges. Then us Frederick backers can be told an objective eye investigated this rather than political hitmen.</p>
<p>The additional beneifit would come of knowing that future chairmen would think twice about helping themselves to the RPV goody basket. They would never know when some political opportunists would come after them with the law. Party money wouldn&#8217;t be wasted on perks an unethical expenses. There would be precendence for cleaning house and putting criminals in jail. That&#8217;s a good thing.</p>
<p>So, I agree with you, bring him up on charges. Then we&#8217;ll all know the truth. Frederick goes to jail or some of you face slander/libel suits. Future party chairs find out they get watched. It is a win-win!</p>
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