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	<title>Comments on: McDonnell On Frederick</title>
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		<title>By: Craig Stinson</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/03/05/mcdonnell-on-frederick/#comment-14385</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Stinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 14:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Loudoun Insider has been outed. Considering the hate he has been spewing about Frederick all over the internet, I&#039;d say he&#039;s an establishment pimp.

Bump to Tom Whitmore! You are spot on brother.

The party leadership has become so far removed from the grassroots of the party membership that the only the they know is their own interests. This is why the party is falling apart. The grassroots are giving up on the leadership. The real coup was the grassroots taking back our party at last year&#039;s convention and placing the chairmanship in the hands of someone with the principled grassroot&#039;s interests at heart. Now of course the establishment leadership has decided to push with a counter offensive with a counter-coup.

To the party leadership, read my words carefully, you are now receiving public notice YOUR DAYS ARE NUMBERED. YOU HAVE BEEN IRRESPONSIBLE WITH OUR PARTY, OUR MONEY, OUR POWER, AND OUR TRUST. YOU HAVE SHOWN YOURSELVES THROUGH THIS COWARDLY AND IRRESPONSIBLE ACTION (ousting of Frederick). WE KNOW WHO TO REMOVE NOW. YOU MAY CURRENTLY HAVE BIG MONEY AND THE POWER OF POSITION, BUT WE HAVE THE ULTIMATE POWER OF THE VOTE. MANY OF US HAVE BEEN MOTIVATED TO ACTION. YOU CAN&#039;T STOP THE MOTIVATED POLITICAL ACTIVIST.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Loudoun Insider has been outed. Considering the hate he has been spewing about Frederick all over the internet, I&#8217;d say he&#8217;s an establishment pimp.</p>
<p>Bump to Tom Whitmore! You are spot on brother.</p>
<p>The party leadership has become so far removed from the grassroots of the party membership that the only the they know is their own interests. This is why the party is falling apart. The grassroots are giving up on the leadership. The real coup was the grassroots taking back our party at last year&#8217;s convention and placing the chairmanship in the hands of someone with the principled grassroot&#8217;s interests at heart. Now of course the establishment leadership has decided to push with a counter offensive with a counter-coup.</p>
<p>To the party leadership, read my words carefully, you are now receiving public notice YOUR DAYS ARE NUMBERED. YOU HAVE BEEN IRRESPONSIBLE WITH OUR PARTY, OUR MONEY, OUR POWER, AND OUR TRUST. YOU HAVE SHOWN YOURSELVES THROUGH THIS COWARDLY AND IRRESPONSIBLE ACTION (ousting of Frederick). WE KNOW WHO TO REMOVE NOW. YOU MAY CURRENTLY HAVE BIG MONEY AND THE POWER OF POSITION, BUT WE HAVE THE ULTIMATE POWER OF THE VOTE. MANY OF US HAVE BEEN MOTIVATED TO ACTION. YOU CAN&#8217;T STOP THE MOTIVATED POLITICAL ACTIVIST.</p>
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		<title>By: Britt Howard</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/03/05/mcdonnell-on-frederick/#comment-14237</link>
		<dc:creator>Britt Howard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 01:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Darrell, I&#039;m just in the 5% extremeist crowd. Loudoun Insider said so.

That&#039;s ok. That means I&#039;m up from 2-3% and steadily gaining ground. :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darrell, I&#8217;m just in the 5% extremeist crowd. Loudoun Insider said so.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s ok. That means I&#8217;m up from 2-3% and steadily gaining ground. <img src='http://bearingdrift.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Britt Howard</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/03/05/mcdonnell-on-frederick/#comment-14236</link>
		<dc:creator>Britt Howard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 01:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, put Tom.</description>
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		<title>By: Darrell</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/03/05/mcdonnell-on-frederick/#comment-14235</link>
		<dc:creator>Darrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 01:04:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You people? Know what happens when a politician uses that term on the campaign trail? They get their ass handed to them on election day. That in essence is a key part of the RPV problem. 

You people need to vote for our candidates, so we can make unconstitutional, unethical, or backroom deals that totally disregard your values and thoughts on good governance. 

You people don&#039;t need to feel left out because we meet in secret at the Hillbilly Hideaway. We have a perfectly good tent back by the outhouse.

You people should continue to give us money because we are the true party of the people, unless it gets in the way of our own agenda.

See, it doesn&#039;t matter whether it&#039;s Frederick, Tom, Ed or anyone else who is in charge of the RPV. The election results show that the citizens of Virginia have figured out who the extremists are, and their name isn&#039;t Britt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You people? Know what happens when a politician uses that term on the campaign trail? They get their ass handed to them on election day. That in essence is a key part of the RPV problem. </p>
<p>You people need to vote for our candidates, so we can make unconstitutional, unethical, or backroom deals that totally disregard your values and thoughts on good governance. </p>
<p>You people don&#8217;t need to feel left out because we meet in secret at the Hillbilly Hideaway. We have a perfectly good tent back by the outhouse.</p>
<p>You people should continue to give us money because we are the true party of the people, unless it gets in the way of our own agenda.</p>
<p>See, it doesn&#8217;t matter whether it&#8217;s Frederick, Tom, Ed or anyone else who is in charge of the RPV. The election results show that the citizens of Virginia have figured out who the extremists are, and their name isn&#8217;t Britt.</p>
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		<title>By: LittleDavid</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/03/05/mcdonnell-on-frederick/#comment-14221</link>
		<dc:creator>LittleDavid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 15:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In case any body wonders, it is not too hard to get at my real name.  Just click on my pseudonym and my real name is contained in the URL for my  blog.

I just happen to use a &quot;handle&quot; on the internet like I do on the CB radio in my occupation.  I go by the same handle there.

I&#039;ll fess up I am able to hide in the fog a little bit as a result, but it is really not that difficult to figure out who I am.  I&#039;m telling you how to do it if you haven&#039;t been able to figure it out on your own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In case any body wonders, it is not too hard to get at my real name.  Just click on my pseudonym and my real name is contained in the URL for my  blog.</p>
<p>I just happen to use a &#8220;handle&#8221; on the internet like I do on the CB radio in my occupation.  I go by the same handle there.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll fess up I am able to hide in the fog a little bit as a result, but it is really not that difficult to figure out who I am.  I&#8217;m telling you how to do it if you haven&#8217;t been able to figure it out on your own.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Whitmore</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/03/05/mcdonnell-on-frederick/#comment-14214</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Whitmore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 06:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What gives with all the opinionated folks that have to hide behind psuedonyms?  If your not ready to stake your reputation on what you have to say, then why should anbody pay any attention?  And as for the leaders of old, Yeah right, let&#039;s see, they lost 2 gubernatorial races 2 Senate races, several Congressional races, not to mention Virginia legislature(you can&#039;t blame Jeff for not being able to turn the shipwreck named the RPV around in five months, and besides the rest of the party nationwide didn&#039;t do so well in the last election either, now did they?).  The SCC would ask us to stand behind their judgement, on what record??  I don&#039;t think removing Jeff Frederick is going to repair what ails the Republican Party of Virginia.  It is the very attitude of the SCC, that they can dis the decision of the overwhelming majority of grassroots that elected Jeff ,that is a large part of the problem.  The country club, better than thou attitude that pervades the party leadership and the elected officials.  It&#039;s a disease that alienates the grassroots faster than a leftwing liberal.  It&#039;s a sad state of affairs when the grassroots of the party have to pull themselves up by their bootstraps and go out to wage battle, not for a supportive leadership and worthy candidates  but rather to keep the alternatives out of office.  Such has been the demise of the Republican Party of Virginia over many years, little by little, it has slipped into a state of apathy.  The blame can only be laid at the feet of the party leaders, all of them, not just one man.  The fact that so many seem willing to accept a sacrificial scapegoat to ease their conscience is indicative of why we are in the position we are.  If you want to find solutions, go out there and talk to the grassroots, find out what motivates them, what it would take to get them more involved and maybe ,just maybe ,you can learn what it is going to take to win. More turmoil in the party is not the answer, nor is more of the same backroom politics.  Party unity, that elusive concept for Republicans might go a long way, if for once, it were employed.  Work with each other to see how we can improve, going forward, instead of tossing each other under the bus at the first provocation.  And if you want to make an impact or get folks to talk to you, you had better be ready to use your real name!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What gives with all the opinionated folks that have to hide behind psuedonyms?  If your not ready to stake your reputation on what you have to say, then why should anbody pay any attention?  And as for the leaders of old, Yeah right, let&#8217;s see, they lost 2 gubernatorial races 2 Senate races, several Congressional races, not to mention Virginia legislature(you can&#8217;t blame Jeff for not being able to turn the shipwreck named the RPV around in five months, and besides the rest of the party nationwide didn&#8217;t do so well in the last election either, now did they?).  The SCC would ask us to stand behind their judgement, on what record??  I don&#8217;t think removing Jeff Frederick is going to repair what ails the Republican Party of Virginia.  It is the very attitude of the SCC, that they can dis the decision of the overwhelming majority of grassroots that elected Jeff ,that is a large part of the problem.  The country club, better than thou attitude that pervades the party leadership and the elected officials.  It&#8217;s a disease that alienates the grassroots faster than a leftwing liberal.  It&#8217;s a sad state of affairs when the grassroots of the party have to pull themselves up by their bootstraps and go out to wage battle, not for a supportive leadership and worthy candidates  but rather to keep the alternatives out of office.  Such has been the demise of the Republican Party of Virginia over many years, little by little, it has slipped into a state of apathy.  The blame can only be laid at the feet of the party leaders, all of them, not just one man.  The fact that so many seem willing to accept a sacrificial scapegoat to ease their conscience is indicative of why we are in the position we are.  If you want to find solutions, go out there and talk to the grassroots, find out what motivates them, what it would take to get them more involved and maybe ,just maybe ,you can learn what it is going to take to win. More turmoil in the party is not the answer, nor is more of the same backroom politics.  Party unity, that elusive concept for Republicans might go a long way, if for once, it were employed.  Work with each other to see how we can improve, going forward, instead of tossing each other under the bus at the first provocation.  And if you want to make an impact or get folks to talk to you, you had better be ready to use your real name!</p>
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		<title>By: Loudoun Insider</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/03/05/mcdonnell-on-frederick/#comment-14211</link>
		<dc:creator>Loudoun Insider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 04:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff Frederick is a national level embarrasment!   This is not a coup, it is (if there are the votes for removal) 80 frigging percent of SCC saying that he has done such a miserable unethical job running RPV that he deserves to be canned.  It&#039;s comparable to the impeachment powers of the Congress towards an unfit President.  Some of you people are so blinded by these faux &quot;conservative&quot; &quot;leaders&quot; that you can&#039;t see the real truth.  Frederick is a charlatan and RPV will be better off with adult supervision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff Frederick is a national level embarrasment!   This is not a coup, it is (if there are the votes for removal) 80 frigging percent of SCC saying that he has done such a miserable unethical job running RPV that he deserves to be canned.  It&#8217;s comparable to the impeachment powers of the Congress towards an unfit President.  Some of you people are so blinded by these faux &#8220;conservative&#8221; &#8220;leaders&#8221; that you can&#8217;t see the real truth.  Frederick is a charlatan and RPV will be better off with adult supervision.</p>
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		<title>By: Britt Howard</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/03/05/mcdonnell-on-frederick/#comment-14208</link>
		<dc:creator>Britt Howard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 02:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See, people like Louden Insider, that don&#039;t have the courage to use their real name in blog postings, start personalizing things when they have no arguement.

Instead of making a point, LI resorts to name calling and saying I&#039;m extreme and in the 5% crowd.

I point out the fact that the RPV is engaging in some damaging behavior and his answwer is that I&#039;m whining with my 3 friends.

Louden Insider, do you not care about your own party. You are a Republican......arn&#039;t you? Or do you secretly chortle as you witness first hand the RPV implode and hand government off to the far left?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See, people like Louden Insider, that don&#8217;t have the courage to use their real name in blog postings, start personalizing things when they have no arguement.</p>
<p>Instead of making a point, LI resorts to name calling and saying I&#8217;m extreme and in the 5% crowd.</p>
<p>I point out the fact that the RPV is engaging in some damaging behavior and his answwer is that I&#8217;m whining with my 3 friends.</p>
<p>Louden Insider, do you not care about your own party. You are a Republican&#8230;&#8230;arn&#8217;t you? Or do you secretly chortle as you witness first hand the RPV implode and hand government off to the far left?</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Osborne</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/03/05/mcdonnell-on-frederick/#comment-14207</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Osborne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 02:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Loudon Insider,

While I do not necessarily agree with Britt&#039;s take on McDonnell, I think that he makes a good point about our party. This coup being launched by people who have been antagonistic to conservatives on culture issues and libertarians on fiscal ones has already created a political bloodbath in the Virginia GOP. If you wanted Tom Davis to be the chairman then why didn&#039;t you try and get him elected last year?

Britt Howard is not alone in his disdain of this coup. It is being led by some of those who disagreed with the results of last years convention. Whether we stick with Frederick or not, let&#039;s move forward united behind our principles, if you disagree with one or two of those principles, that&#039;s fine, just don&#039;t try and change the party&#039;s core principles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loudon Insider,</p>
<p>While I do not necessarily agree with Britt&#8217;s take on McDonnell, I think that he makes a good point about our party. This coup being launched by people who have been antagonistic to conservatives on culture issues and libertarians on fiscal ones has already created a political bloodbath in the Virginia GOP. If you wanted Tom Davis to be the chairman then why didn&#8217;t you try and get him elected last year?</p>
<p>Britt Howard is not alone in his disdain of this coup. It is being led by some of those who disagreed with the results of last years convention. Whether we stick with Frederick or not, let&#8217;s move forward united behind our principles, if you disagree with one or two of those principles, that&#8217;s fine, just don&#8217;t try and change the party&#8217;s core principles.</p>
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		<title>By: Loudoun Insider</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/03/05/mcdonnell-on-frederick/#comment-14205</link>
		<dc:creator>Loudoun Insider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 02:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People as extreme as Britt make up maybe 5% of the voting populace.  Keep on whining to yourself and your three friends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People as extreme as Britt make up maybe 5% of the voting populace.  Keep on whining to yourself and your three friends.</p>
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		<title>By: Britt Howard</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/03/05/mcdonnell-on-frederick/#comment-14204</link>
		<dc:creator>Britt Howard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 02:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, Is that like how I plan to vote for Cuccinelli and Bolling but, against McDonnell?

Govern like a fiscal conservative, you get my vote.

Govern like a fiscal liberal, I stay home if the Democrat is a fiscal Liberal.

Govern like a fiscal liberal and go against a conservative democrat like Creigh Deeds and I&#039;ll vote Democrat. (Result 2 votes)

Govern like a HRTA loving liberal that wants to decide what type of sex my bride to be and I have behind closed doors, protect eminent domain by championing false reform that protects nobody, and destroy your own party by trying to boot Jeff Frederick and sink Cuccinelli, and I just might vote for anybody over you. (1 or 2 votes.......depending on how angry I&#039;m feeling that day.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, Is that like how I plan to vote for Cuccinelli and Bolling but, against McDonnell?</p>
<p>Govern like a fiscal conservative, you get my vote.</p>
<p>Govern like a fiscal liberal, I stay home if the Democrat is a fiscal Liberal.</p>
<p>Govern like a fiscal liberal and go against a conservative democrat like Creigh Deeds and I&#8217;ll vote Democrat. (Result 2 votes)</p>
<p>Govern like a HRTA loving liberal that wants to decide what type of sex my bride to be and I have behind closed doors, protect eminent domain by championing false reform that protects nobody, and destroy your own party by trying to boot Jeff Frederick and sink Cuccinelli, and I just might vote for anybody over you. (1 or 2 votes&#8230;&#8230;.depending on how angry I&#8217;m feeling that day.)</p>
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		<title>By: LittleDavid</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/03/05/mcdonnell-on-frederick/#comment-14197</link>
		<dc:creator>LittleDavid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 22:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am going to try and make this point again.

When the politician alienates a right wring voter, the voter might stay home.  Result? Minus one.

When the politician alienates a moderate voter?  The moderate voter votes for the other guy (or gal).  Result?  Minus two.

If a Republican candidate attempts to appeal to moderate voters and this ends up alienating the base?  Well I guess the Democrat just ends up getting elected.  But without the moderate vote the Republican stood about zero chance anyway, so what does he/she have to lose?

If died in the wool conservatives insist on staying home every time they do not get their way they are going to have to live with even more extreme candidates winning the election.  You&#039;re going to take your ball and go back home?  But what happens when they come knocking on your door demanding you surrender the ball because they won the election?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am going to try and make this point again.</p>
<p>When the politician alienates a right wring voter, the voter might stay home.  Result? Minus one.</p>
<p>When the politician alienates a moderate voter?  The moderate voter votes for the other guy (or gal).  Result?  Minus two.</p>
<p>If a Republican candidate attempts to appeal to moderate voters and this ends up alienating the base?  Well I guess the Democrat just ends up getting elected.  But without the moderate vote the Republican stood about zero chance anyway, so what does he/she have to lose?</p>
<p>If died in the wool conservatives insist on staying home every time they do not get their way they are going to have to live with even more extreme candidates winning the election.  You&#8217;re going to take your ball and go back home?  But what happens when they come knocking on your door demanding you surrender the ball because they won the election?</p>
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		<title>By: Loudoun Insider</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/03/05/mcdonnell-on-frederick/#comment-14180</link>
		<dc:creator>Loudoun Insider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 14:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And it has done even worse since this buffoon with the Napoleonic Complex took over!

See his latest email defenses to SCC here:

http://tooconservative.com/?p=3342</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And it has done even worse since this buffoon with the Napoleonic Complex took over!</p>
<p>See his latest email defenses to SCC here:</p>
<p><a href="http://tooconservative.com/?p=3342" rel="nofollow">http://tooconservative.com/?p=3342</a></p>
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		<title>By: Darrell</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/03/05/mcdonnell-on-frederick/#comment-14171</link>
		<dc:creator>Darrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 07:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The RPV was embarrassing itself long before Frederick came along.</description>
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		<title>By: Loudoun Insider</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2009/03/05/mcdonnell-on-frederick/#comment-14168</link>
		<dc:creator>Loudoun Insider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 00:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Good Old Boys?  Well idiot Frederick has his own insider crew of Good Yooung Boys, which of course centers on himself.  He&#039;s a selfish narcisstic buffoon.  It&#039;s time for him to go and stop embarrassing himself and RPV.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Good Old Boys?  Well idiot Frederick has his own insider crew of Good Yooung Boys, which of course centers on himself.  He&#8217;s a selfish narcisstic buffoon.  It&#8217;s time for him to go and stop embarrassing himself and RPV.</p>
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