I believe God created mankind. I think he did so because He was lonely.

What kind of existence would it be if you are alone in the universe?

Chaotic order. Since Max was so good as to channel Michio Kaku and introduce the physicist’s conflict of wood vs marble, I plant myself with Einstein on the marble side. I believe in the concept of the Supreme Architect, the watchmaker who created the universe and the laws by which it operates. This is the Order at the base of all existence. Our reflection of God’s divinity is our free will, our divine endowment to introduce Chaos in an otherwise ordered universe. We are the pebbles in the lake – we create the ripples, and existence rearranges itself around our choices following the natural laws in place sense it’s inception. However, I don’t have the audacity to claim we are unique in that regard, it’s a big universe for us to be the only source of Chaos.

This goes back to the Tao-Te-Ching which states

“Short and long define each other, evil and good contrast each other, easy and difficult depend on each other”

You cannot have one end of the spectrum without out the other, no chaos with no god and no lack of a belief in god without a belief in god. This ties in with relativity and perturbation theory in modern physics.

You stated:

“Having studied Einstein’s work I can assure you he viewed god and time as one and the same.”

That statement comes close to my own viewpoint. However I would extract “time” and insert “science”.

God conforms to science. When this appears to not be true it is only because we have yet to discover how God goes about doing it.

Quantum mechanics is the science of the extremely small subatomic particles and the laws governing them. These laws are not exact, rather they represent minute quantum corrections to yangs-mill and maxwell field theories. There is a phenomenon called quantum tunneling whereby previously impossible actions re reduced to finite probabilistic quantities. Tests whereby huge tanks of water are stored underground, shielded from cosmic rays, demonstrate that atoms inside the tank can tunnel to the outside of the tank even though conventional wisdom deems this impossible. This results from that we cannot know the position and velocity of a sub-atomic particle at one in the same moment, hence there is a probability wave where the particle could exist at any time. This wave takes up an area that is often split between to sections separated by a seemingly impassable physical barrier.

Relativity describes the motions of the planets and does not work well to describe sub-atomic interactions. Einstein compared the universe and its inhabitants to 2D creatures living on a piece of paper. Crumble the paper and when they try to move in a straight they cannot because their world in crumbled in an extra spatial dimension. This is how Einstein thought of our 4 dimensional space time. He sought to create a theory whereby spatial geometry defined all the interactions of particles. A mathematical universe made out of marble, not wood.

This is where the dice comment came from. Quantum Theory is a probabilistic framework, Einstein’s equations were finite,simple, and beautiful. It would make no sense for a theory of galaxies to not describe sub-atomic particles because galaxies are made of subatomic particles. He said god does not play dice because he believes everything can be reduced to math and that the universe was no designed by chance and is not beholden to the laws of chance.

Having studied Einstein’s work I can assure you he viewed god and time as one and the same. Time is the extra variable that allows our universe to move forward based on the results of the effects of all forces on the matter in our universe. God being time can know the conditions at any moment in time, but yet cannot change it.

MB,

You stated:

“Replace “Chaos Theory” with “God”, LittleDavid, and you’ve got a good essay.”

I do not like that you think what I wrote could be used as either for, or against, the existence of God. In fact I am not quite sure which side of the fence your own comment would put you.

Without arguing either for or against the existence of God, let me point out that Albert Einstein once stated that “God does not play dice.”

This comment is often used by both sides to prove their own opinion. I think it proves neither. It only discards and exposes the arguments from the extremists from either viewpoint. However it is acceptable to most of us who might be described as being moderates.

Albert Einstein was a genius, no?

Totally wrong, go read civil disobedience, government is mean to divide, society meant to bring together. Government tells us what not to do, what we should repress, society is meant to show us what we are free to do. What is this bullshit they teach you kids in school and on TV? Does anyone read the classics anymore?

Chaos is feared because its essence is unpredictability and even strength or power. Who can truly predict how the weather patterns will play out? We may have educated guesses based on science, magic or religious beliefs, but no one can claim absolute understanding of how the current weather pattern may change or move over any amount of time, and indeed we are often wrong. Who can truly control the course of their lives – the incidents, the accidents, the choices made and not made? We may try our best to make the “best” decisions for a specific outcome, we never know if the outcome was in fact the result of our actions at all. In the end, the only power and control we truly have is our perception of and response to the results of the chaotic events that surround us. The more order we attempt to exert onto our lives and situations, the more chaotic the results seem. The more we “go with the flow” and accept chaos the less anxiety we feel about it, and indeed, the less we perceive “chaos”.

Similar to the ideas of many of the martial arts disciplines, we may find greater strength in our ability to move with and divert the energy of the chaos that surrounds us than trying to block or overpower it. When an opponent strikes, the choices are to run away (an attempt to hide from the chaos), make a hard stand using brute strength to overpower the opponent (attempting to bring order to the chaos), or to move with the opponent and use his own momentum and force to throw him off balance (responding to and moving with the chaos). There is no order brought to the altercation in any of the three situations.

I believe that chaos simply exists, whereas order is an idea humans attempt to impose in response to our fear and vulnerability. Therefore, the idea behind “ordered chaos” and “chaotic order” is a fantasy that is best left behind so that we can move effortlessly through the beautiful truth of chaos.

The genesis of chaos in American society today, is based on the theory that a minority dissatisfied with any situation(war,economy,election results) may through chaos,ordered or not,bring about change to their liking.This became even more relevant during the Katrina fiasco.The central government was blamed for the chaos for not providing an ‘ordered chaos.’In reality, order itself was what was necessary, but avoided because ‘we have progressed as a society beyond that.’ Thus, only chaos reigned until the troops showed up and ‘restored order.’Not chaotic order but simply order.

Invariably, societies that fall into self-thinking chaos will at some point lose freedoms based on a majority demanding simple order.In all societies the breakdown of order is based usually on two things only;(1)Corruption allows chaotic order to become common because one must only pay the corner cop to maintain it and(2)society deems it appropriate to have ordered chaos to be truly free.In the end, the cries against corruption and the ordered chaos will bring demands for order and order alone.In this lies the true danger to American freedoms.

The pendulum never hangs in the middle.A fringe orders chaos in many varieties until the ‘silent majority’ demands not chaotic order, but simply order.In the end, the question asked will become a moot point. Americans,outside of the power structure in Washington and the media crave order that they may go about their lives in safety.Does this strike at the freedoms of others? On rare occasions it does, when police et al cross the line into repression.But even in these rare instances, it invariably occurs when most citizens demand simple order.

From our founding fathers to today, the desire of Americans has always been order once freedom had been achieved, unless they or a group of them decide that some type of chaos serves them better. Thus, when true freedom has not been achieved, ordered chaos and chaotic order can be used as an agenda driven means to secure someones goals for a new national order or even a ‘new world order.’