Comments on: New Media And The RPV http://bearingdrift.com/2008/11/21/new-media-and-the-rpv/ Sun, 12 Feb 2012 23:18:22 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Jody L. Wilcox http://bearingdrift.com/2008/11/21/new-media-and-the-rpv/#comment-10324 Jody L. Wilcox Wed, 26 Nov 2008 18:37:44 +0000 http://bearingdrift.com/?p=3338#comment-10324 Chiming in late but the only time I write about disagreeing with RPV is when I disagree with them....otherwise I pretty much in agreement since I am a Republican(but more importantly a conservative...if the RPV wants only people that always agree with there "official" position then their numbers and fund raising will continue to dwindle......isn't that what the blogoshere is about ? Chiming in late but the only time I write about disagreeing with RPV is when I disagree with them….otherwise I pretty much in agreement since I am a Republican(but more importantly a conservative…if the RPV wants only people that always agree with there “official” position then their numbers and fund raising will continue to dwindle……isn’t that what the blogoshere is about ?

]]> By: RPV’s New Media Disconnect | Bearing Drift :: Virginia Politics and Podcasts http://bearingdrift.com/2008/11/21/new-media-and-the-rpv/#comment-10257 RPV’s New Media Disconnect | Bearing Drift :: Virginia Politics and Podcasts Tue, 25 Nov 2008 14:33:56 +0000 http://bearingdrift.com/?p=3338#comment-10257 [...] week’s post on New Media and the RPV generated quite a response and served to show a disconnect between the Republican Party of Virginia [...] [...] week’s post on New Media and the RPV generated quite a response and served to show a disconnect between the Republican Party of Virginia [...]

]]> By: #dontgo Movement » Blog Archive » GOP attempting new media = FAIL http://bearingdrift.com/2008/11/21/new-media-and-the-rpv/#comment-10238 #dontgo Movement » Blog Archive » GOP attempting new media = FAIL Tue, 25 Nov 2008 04:47:16 +0000 http://bearingdrift.com/?p=3338#comment-10238 [...] I found, via Leslie Carbone, another prime example of the GOP establishment’s complete failure to understand new media. For the record, I believe that it can be seen as innocent to misunderstand something such as new [...] [...] I found, via Leslie Carbone, another prime example of the GOP establishment’s complete failure to understand new media. For the record, I believe that it can be seen as innocent to misunderstand something such as new [...]

]]> By: David West http://bearingdrift.com/2008/11/21/new-media-and-the-rpv/#comment-10237 David West Tue, 25 Nov 2008 04:28:01 +0000 http://bearingdrift.com/?p=3338#comment-10237 This is just amazing. Speaking as someone outside of Virginia, it becomes more and more obvious certain individuals are more concerned about promoting themselves than actually getting conservatism advanced within the Republican Party. I don't want to sound too harsh, as I would like to see many of you involved in the true grassroots where I'll be lying for the next few years, but it may be easier to deal with people like described in the main article by ignoring the (r) behind your name and worry more about the philosophy that made you decide to put that (r) there. That's how MoveOn.org did it, and how you guys lost in Virginia when you should not have. This is just amazing. Speaking as someone outside of Virginia, it becomes more and more obvious certain individuals are more concerned about promoting themselves than actually getting conservatism advanced within the Republican Party.

I don’t want to sound too harsh, as I would like to see many of you involved in the true grassroots where I’ll be lying for the next few years, but it may be easier to deal with people like described in the main article by ignoring the (r) behind your name and worry more about the philosophy that made you decide to put that (r) there.

That’s how MoveOn.org did it, and how you guys lost in Virginia when you should not have.

]]> By: Why I do not support removing Jeff Frederick « Rappahannock Red http://bearingdrift.com/2008/11/21/new-media-and-the-rpv/#comment-10212 Why I do not support removing Jeff Frederick « Rappahannock Red Mon, 24 Nov 2008 19:05:18 +0000 http://bearingdrift.com/?p=3338#comment-10212 [...] Virtucon, Below the Beltway, and The Write Side of My Brain, Leslie Carbone, and Jason Kenney at BD).  I tend to agree with the above bloggers on this narrow issue, but outside of Jason, I’m not [...] [...] Virtucon, Below the Beltway, and The Write Side of My Brain, Leslie Carbone, and Jason Kenney at BD).  I tend to agree with the above bloggers on this narrow issue, but outside of Jason, I’m not [...]

]]> By: Why I do not support removing Jeff Frederick « The right-wing liberal http://bearingdrift.com/2008/11/21/new-media-and-the-rpv/#comment-10207 Why I do not support removing Jeff Frederick « The right-wing liberal Mon, 24 Nov 2008 19:00:44 +0000 http://bearingdrift.com/?p=3338#comment-10207 [...] Virtucon, Below the Beltway, and The Write Side of My Brain, Leslie Carbone, and Jason Kenney at BD).  I tend to agree with the above bloggers on this narrow issue, but outside of Jason, I’m [...] [...] Virtucon, Below the Beltway, and The Write Side of My Brain, Leslie Carbone, and Jason Kenney at BD).  I tend to agree with the above bloggers on this narrow issue, but outside of Jason, I’m [...]

]]> By: Is the RPV Crashing (again) Faster than the Stock Market? « Rappahannock Red http://bearingdrift.com/2008/11/21/new-media-and-the-rpv/#comment-10182 Is the RPV Crashing (again) Faster than the Stock Market? « Rappahannock Red Mon, 24 Nov 2008 03:59:22 +0000 http://bearingdrift.com/?p=3338#comment-10182 [...] recently went on a friendly conservative blog, Bearing Drift, and said in a long statement essentially “I don’t read blogs [...] [...] recently went on a friendly conservative blog, Bearing Drift, and said in a long statement essentially “I don’t read blogs [...]

]]> By: Eric Martin http://bearingdrift.com/2008/11/21/new-media-and-the-rpv/#comment-10172 Eric Martin Mon, 24 Nov 2008 02:21:46 +0000 http://bearingdrift.com/?p=3338#comment-10172 JFred promised raising huge sums of money. JFred promised a world-class RPV website which presumably would include a 'new media' aspect, JFred promised in writing he'd step down as delegate if he was elected chairman of RPV. jFred promised he'd lead us to victory and pick up seats (albeit hard for any one person to do)... promises kept? I couldn't get RPV to promote a 1,500 person Palin debate watching party, but JFred showed up unannounced and demanded microphone time in place of John Warner and 5 other speakers! I can't get RPV to remove me from their fundraising mailing list or robo calls. No one knows how much this new website is costing or who's making it, or when it will be done. No one will tell me how much we've raised at RPV for the war chest. No one will tell me if the rumors are true that Amy Frederick is on the RPV payroll. No one will tell me if the rumors are true that this mysterious web site costs $50,000. Can I have that contract please? I make web sites!! I voted for Jeff Frederick for chairman, and I don't mind saying that I have a case of buyers' remorse. I feel like I bought a used Saturn sedan without a warranty! Maybe the Obama camp folks can give me some answers-- they have leaders who DO read blogs and keep up with the media- both traditional and new media. Grass roots leadership my ass; it's more like a field of dreams. JFred promised raising huge sums of money. JFred promised a world-class RPV website which presumably would include a ‘new media’ aspect, JFred promised in writing he’d step down as delegate if he was elected chairman of RPV. jFred promised he’d lead us to victory and pick up seats (albeit hard for any one person to do)… promises kept?

I couldn’t get RPV to promote a 1,500 person Palin debate watching party, but JFred showed up unannounced and demanded microphone time in place of John Warner and 5 other speakers!

I can’t get RPV to remove me from their fundraising mailing list or robo calls.

No one knows how much this new website is costing or who’s making it, or when it will be done.

No one will tell me how much we’ve raised at RPV for the war chest.

No one will tell me if the rumors are true that Amy Frederick is on the RPV payroll.

No one will tell me if the rumors are true that this mysterious web site costs $50,000. Can I have that contract please? I make web sites!!

I voted for Jeff Frederick for chairman, and I don’t mind saying that I have a case of buyers’ remorse.

I feel like I bought a used Saturn sedan without a warranty!

Maybe the Obama camp folks can give me some answers– they have leaders who DO read blogs and keep up with the media- both traditional and new media.

Grass roots leadership my ass; it’s more like a field of dreams.

]]> By: Raising Kaine Goes Dark; GOP still in the Dark « Renaissance Ruminations http://bearingdrift.com/2008/11/21/new-media-and-the-rpv/#comment-10123 Raising Kaine Goes Dark; GOP still in the Dark « Renaissance Ruminations Sat, 22 Nov 2008 20:01:47 +0000 http://bearingdrift.com/?p=3338#comment-10123 [...] squabbles about new media, Chairman Jeff, and the Hampton Roads GOP blog that was kicked off by a post at Bearing [...] [...] squabbles about new media, Chairman Jeff, and the Hampton Roads GOP blog that was kicked off by a post at Bearing [...]

]]> By: Kat http://bearingdrift.com/2008/11/21/new-media-and-the-rpv/#comment-10111 Kat Sat, 22 Nov 2008 16:23:06 +0000 http://bearingdrift.com/?p=3338#comment-10111 Well, "Whatever," since you seem to want to say this here as well as <a href="http://lesliecarbone.blogspot.com/2008/11/on-new-media-debate.html" rel="nofollow">at Leslie's place</a>, I'll repost my comment here as well: <blockquote><em>Facebook</em>? Well, I suppose it's a start, but when was Facebook ever the venue for serious political discussion? How about letting us know when a Facebook account ever broke a major story? Facebook's all fine-and-dandy for social networking, but I would hardly compare it to blogs for political commentary and activism. J-Fred, as you call him, would be wise to do some research and pick out 10 blogs (plus or minus) to follow regularly for breaking news and how the grassroots are reacting to RPV "directives." If he did this, he might just catch a clue about where the base wants this Party to go. Of course, if he and his cohorts decide to continue to dismiss the blogs and the importance of their niche (if only to monitor what the average Joe/Jane thinks of things), then J-Fred and the GOP will continue to sink into irrelevance. How many years have the Republican "leaders" been ignoring the base? "Small government!" we cry. "Lower taxes, fiscal responsibility, and secure borders!" The RNC and RPV don't seem to have listened - and you see how well that's worked for them. So the issue isn't so much whether Mr. Frederick is active on the web; it's whether that activity is actually productive, effective and informative. Which it apparently is NOT.</blockquote> Well, “Whatever,” since you seem to want to say this here as well as at Leslie’s place, I’ll repost my comment here as well:

Facebook? Well, I suppose it’s a start, but when was Facebook ever the venue for serious political discussion? How about letting us know when a Facebook account ever broke a major story?

Facebook’s all fine-and-dandy for social networking, but I would hardly compare it to blogs for political commentary and activism.

J-Fred, as you call him, would be wise to do some research and pick out 10 blogs (plus or minus) to follow regularly for breaking news and how the grassroots are reacting to RPV “directives.” If he did this, he might just catch a clue about where the base wants this Party to go.

Of course, if he and his cohorts decide to continue to dismiss the blogs and the importance of their niche (if only to monitor what the average Joe/Jane thinks of things), then J-Fred and the GOP will continue to sink into irrelevance.

How many years have the Republican “leaders” been ignoring the base? “Small government!” we cry. “Lower taxes, fiscal responsibility, and secure borders!” The RNC and RPV don’t seem to have listened – and you see how well that’s worked for them.

So the issue isn’t so much whether Mr. Frederick is active on the web; it’s whether that activity is actually productive, effective and informative.

Which it apparently is NOT.

]]> By: Whatever http://bearingdrift.com/2008/11/21/new-media-and-the-rpv/#comment-10108 Whatever Sat, 22 Nov 2008 15:46:39 +0000 http://bearingdrift.com/?p=3338#comment-10108 Mike, how can you say that RPV is ignoring bloggers when J-Fred in his post here mentioned two tangible things he is doing to reach out to bloggers? One can spend all day and night reading blogs, so J-Fred's reluctance to read them may be well reasoned. But does that necessarily mean that he does not stay active via other forms of "new media", like on the web; on e-mail; or on Facebook (for which he has an account and seems to keep up with it)? Mike, how can you say that RPV is ignoring bloggers when J-Fred in his post here mentioned two tangible things he is doing to reach out to bloggers?

One can spend all day and night reading blogs, so J-Fred’s reluctance to read them may be well reasoned. But does that necessarily mean that he does not stay active via other forms of “new media”, like on the web; on e-mail; or on Facebook (for which he has an account and seems to keep up with it)?

]]> By: Brian Kirwin http://bearingdrift.com/2008/11/21/new-media-and-the-rpv/#comment-10099 Brian Kirwin Sat, 22 Nov 2008 11:07:57 +0000 http://bearingdrift.com/?p=3338#comment-10099 I'm controversial? Neat! They want to decide who's a Republican and who isn't, and I'M controversial? Mike, absolutely you can be Joy. Gonna match her hair?? :) I’m controversial? Neat!

They want to decide who’s a Republican and who isn’t, and I’M controversial?

Mike, absolutely you can be Joy. Gonna match her hair?? :)

]]> By: Fighting in the Virginia Blogosphere « Hampton Roads GOP http://bearingdrift.com/2008/11/21/new-media-and-the-rpv/#comment-10094 Fighting in the Virginia Blogosphere « Hampton Roads GOP Sat, 22 Nov 2008 06:22:12 +0000 http://bearingdrift.com/?p=3338#comment-10094 [...] Bearing Drift, Virginia Virtucon, Mike, Red Virginia, Tertium Quids, and other members of The Jeffersoniad, what do you say? Can we meet face to face and work together? It would be preferable for all our ships to sail in the same direction as we work to fix the Republican Party together rather than to work against each other as the Democrats move beyond us. [...] [...] Bearing Drift, Virginia Virtucon, Mike, Red Virginia, Tertium Quids, and other members of The Jeffersoniad, what do you say? Can we meet face to face and work together? It would be preferable for all our ships to sail in the same direction as we work to fix the Republican Party together rather than to work against each other as the Democrats move beyond us. [...]

]]> By: Shaun Kenney http://bearingdrift.com/2008/11/21/new-media-and-the-rpv/#comment-10088 Shaun Kenney Sat, 22 Nov 2008 04:42:00 +0000 http://bearingdrift.com/?p=3338#comment-10088 Jim Young -- Shaun hasn't jumped in yet... there's four of us Kenney brothers running around Virginia, you know. ...but I'm thinking about chiming in. :) Jim Young –

Shaun hasn’t jumped in yet… there’s four of us Kenney brothers running around Virginia, you know.

…but I’m thinking about chiming in. :)

]]> By: The RPV New Media Debacle « Crystal Clear Conservative http://bearingdrift.com/2008/11/21/new-media-and-the-rpv/#comment-10087 The RPV New Media Debacle « Crystal Clear Conservative Sat, 22 Nov 2008 04:38:03 +0000 http://bearingdrift.com/?p=3338#comment-10087 [...] Jason Kenney wrote about how the RPV has not been so receptive of the bloggers community on Bearing Drift.  Throughout the article, he made some great points, especially with this comment: By organizing [...] [...] Jason Kenney wrote about how the RPV has not been so receptive of the bloggers community on Bearing Drift.  Throughout the article, he made some great points, especially with this comment: By organizing [...]

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