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		<title>By: Reid Greenmun</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2008/09/29/bailout-bombs/#comment-7592</link>
		<dc:creator>Reid Greenmun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 23:21:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hum, water boarding anyone?</description>
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		<title>By: FrenchytheSailor</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2008/09/29/bailout-bombs/#comment-7585</link>
		<dc:creator>FrenchytheSailor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 20:50:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know JR.  

I&#039;m pretty disgusted by this whole situation.  

Personally, I think we need a military coup.  Adm Mullen would make a great interm dicator until they can clean up Washington, arrest all those morons in DC and make some draconian changes.

I know, we can throw them in to the prison at Gitmo!  Then we wouldn&#039;t even have to give them trials and they couldn&#039;t complain about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know JR.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m pretty disgusted by this whole situation.  </p>
<p>Personally, I think we need a military coup.  Adm Mullen would make a great interm dicator until they can clean up Washington, arrest all those morons in DC and make some draconian changes.</p>
<p>I know, we can throw them in to the prison at Gitmo!  Then we wouldn&#8217;t even have to give them trials and they couldn&#8217;t complain about it.</p>
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		<title>By: J.R. Hoeft</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2008/09/29/bailout-bombs/#comment-7577</link>
		<dc:creator>J.R. Hoeft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 17:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FYI, for those interested...

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/News/PressReleases/64a100d5-3748-4e35-af7b-8f2b064c4cdf.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;McCain&#039;s statement from yesterday&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/News/PressReleases/Read.aspx?GUID=4d8bea35-f300-472b-9730-f1eacaf5d733&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;McCain&#039;s suggestions for immediate steps to stabilize the economy&lt;/a&gt;

And, for those of you that &quot;trust&quot; Democrats and Obama to deliver the economy during this particular time, you might want to check-out &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gop.com/images/research/093008Research.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this research briefing&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI, for those interested&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/News/PressReleases/64a100d5-3748-4e35-af7b-8f2b064c4cdf.htm" rel="nofollow">McCain&#8217;s statement from yesterday</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/News/PressReleases/Read.aspx?GUID=4d8bea35-f300-472b-9730-f1eacaf5d733" rel="nofollow">McCain&#8217;s suggestions for immediate steps to stabilize the economy</a></p>
<p>And, for those of you that &#8220;trust&#8221; Democrats and Obama to deliver the economy during this particular time, you might want to check-out <a href="http://www.gop.com/images/research/093008Research.pdf" rel="nofollow">this research briefing</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Reid Greenmun</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2008/09/29/bailout-bombs/#comment-7574</link>
		<dc:creator>Reid Greenmun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 16:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thelma Drake voted &quot;No.&quot;

I am glad.

Now let&#039;s get a plan on the tabel that can help prevent this from happening again - possibly unclog the credit crunch - but not screw the American taxpayer in the process.

Right now there isn&#039;t a plan on the table that will actually correct the situation.

Of course, this really isn&#039;t the role of the Congress to get involved in. Those are private banks and the mortgages outside of Fannie and Freddie are completely a private matter.

The notion of nationalizing our banking and mortgage industry shouldn&#039;t even be up for discussion - it is simply wrong.

As to the Pelosi speech - what a nit wit she is. But at the end of the day, the Democrats control the majority of the Congress and President Bush already said he&#039;d sign this bailout bill - so this is clearly the result of the Democrats that caused this bill to fail.

Here is the odd part - the bill SHOULD have failed. It&#039;s crap - and all of them know it.

But those BILLIONS will sure help those banks and other CORPORATE interests looking to dump all the bad loans they bought, won&#039;t it?

Folks - this is a scandle or MASSIVE. no, make that EPIC porportions.

And yet people haven&#039;t taken to the streets to protest this?

Those that understand it are probably too busy working to set fire to the capital building.

We are all being snookered. The only reason it went down was a &quot;deal&quot; was made so Democrats could use Republican &quot;YES&quot; votes to beat up Republicans in key swing states. But - many Republicans understand that they will not win reelection if the vote &quot;YES&quot; - so FEAR of losing their gig motivsated them to renig on the &quot;deal&quot; that they really were not a party to in the first place!

What we are witnessing is a train wreck of conflicting self interests and personal preservation in stunning disregard for the welfare of the nation.

This makes Senator McCain&#039;s campaign slogan of &quot;Country First&quot; laughingly ironic - and pathetic at the same time.

It seems to be that for the most part - NONE of these people in Washington D.C. care about putting the &quot;Country First&quot;.

The proof of this is the incredible lunacy of CONGRESS GOING ON A HOLIDAY in the middle of this disaster!

Are you kidding us?

Unbelievable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thelma Drake voted &#8220;No.&#8221;</p>
<p>I am glad.</p>
<p>Now let&#8217;s get a plan on the tabel that can help prevent this from happening again &#8211; possibly unclog the credit crunch &#8211; but not screw the American taxpayer in the process.</p>
<p>Right now there isn&#8217;t a plan on the table that will actually correct the situation.</p>
<p>Of course, this really isn&#8217;t the role of the Congress to get involved in. Those are private banks and the mortgages outside of Fannie and Freddie are completely a private matter.</p>
<p>The notion of nationalizing our banking and mortgage industry shouldn&#8217;t even be up for discussion &#8211; it is simply wrong.</p>
<p>As to the Pelosi speech &#8211; what a nit wit she is. But at the end of the day, the Democrats control the majority of the Congress and President Bush already said he&#8217;d sign this bailout bill &#8211; so this is clearly the result of the Democrats that caused this bill to fail.</p>
<p>Here is the odd part &#8211; the bill SHOULD have failed. It&#8217;s crap &#8211; and all of them know it.</p>
<p>But those BILLIONS will sure help those banks and other CORPORATE interests looking to dump all the bad loans they bought, won&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>Folks &#8211; this is a scandle or MASSIVE. no, make that EPIC porportions.</p>
<p>And yet people haven&#8217;t taken to the streets to protest this?</p>
<p>Those that understand it are probably too busy working to set fire to the capital building.</p>
<p>We are all being snookered. The only reason it went down was a &#8220;deal&#8221; was made so Democrats could use Republican &#8220;YES&#8221; votes to beat up Republicans in key swing states. But &#8211; many Republicans understand that they will not win reelection if the vote &#8220;YES&#8221; &#8211; so FEAR of losing their gig motivsated them to renig on the &#8220;deal&#8221; that they really were not a party to in the first place!</p>
<p>What we are witnessing is a train wreck of conflicting self interests and personal preservation in stunning disregard for the welfare of the nation.</p>
<p>This makes Senator McCain&#8217;s campaign slogan of &#8220;Country First&#8221; laughingly ironic &#8211; and pathetic at the same time.</p>
<p>It seems to be that for the most part &#8211; NONE of these people in Washington D.C. care about putting the &#8220;Country First&#8221;.</p>
<p>The proof of this is the incredible lunacy of CONGRESS GOING ON A HOLIDAY in the middle of this disaster!</p>
<p>Are you kidding us?</p>
<p>Unbelievable.</p>
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		<title>By: Snoop Diggity-DANG-Dawg</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2008/09/29/bailout-bombs/#comment-7562</link>
		<dc:creator>Snoop Diggity-DANG-Dawg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And for you &#039;outraged&#039; libs, where&#039;s your rage at the dozens of Democrats who vvoted &#039;nay&#039;?

Pelosi didn&#039;t need a single Republican vote to get this shitburger passed, and she still failed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And for you &#8216;outraged&#8217; libs, where&#8217;s your rage at the dozens of Democrats who vvoted &#8216;nay&#8217;?</p>
<p>Pelosi didn&#8217;t need a single Republican vote to get this shitburger passed, and she still failed.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Kirwin</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2008/09/29/bailout-bombs/#comment-7560</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Kirwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 12:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why was the Speaker of the House speaking from the well of the House anyway????

Isn&#039;t she supposed to be presiding?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why was the Speaker of the House speaking from the well of the House anyway????</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t she supposed to be presiding?</p>
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		<title>By: Darrell -- Chesapeake</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2008/09/29/bailout-bombs/#comment-7558</link>
		<dc:creator>Darrell -- Chesapeake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 03:15:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a dire situation. So dire that Congress takes off for a holiday that most Americans didn&#039;t even know exists. While these weasels are out playing golf with their Wall Street handlers the rest of America will be at work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a dire situation. So dire that Congress takes off for a holiday that most Americans didn&#8217;t even know exists. While these weasels are out playing golf with their Wall Street handlers the rest of America will be at work.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Hinton</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2008/09/29/bailout-bombs/#comment-7557</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Hinton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 02:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a quick note, doing a peek at the &lt;a href=&quot;http://money.cnn.com/data/world_markets/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;rest of the world&#039;s markets&lt;/a&gt; to see how they were &lt;del datetime=&quot;2008-09-30T02:44:34+00:00&quot;&gt;taking the news&lt;/del&gt; handling the crisis, and they appear to be mostly tanking in the 4-5% range. The one index still in the black? Norway&#039;s BRIX, shock of shocks. Who needs a bailout when you already have a mixed economy right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a quick note, doing a peek at the <a href="http://money.cnn.com/data/world_markets/" rel="nofollow">rest of the world&#8217;s markets</a> to see how they were <del datetime="2008-09-30T02:44:34+00:00">taking the news</del> handling the crisis, and they appear to be mostly tanking in the 4-5% range. The one index still in the black? Norway&#8217;s BRIX, shock of shocks. Who needs a bailout when you already have a mixed economy right?</p>
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		<title>By: Shane McNulty</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2008/09/29/bailout-bombs/#comment-7556</link>
		<dc:creator>Shane McNulty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 02:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a difference between being confident in an opinion and being so bull-headed as to not be swayed by information...  I&#039;ll speak to being confident in an opinion JR, I&#039;ll let you handle the latter.

McCain&#039;s contribution to the meeting at the White House was virtually nil, and that&#039;s according to the Republicans who were present.

Am I glad McCain has injected Presidential politics into the financial disaster for his own personal gain (as we saw him attempt to do today)?  No, why would anyone be?  Why are you?

Did McCain really have anything to add?  Did Economics suddenly become his strong suit?  Of course not.

If McCain had made the economy the centerpiece of his campaign this would be a completely different matter and I absolutely would have expected his involvement.  

As a taxpayer am I glad McCain wasted his time?  No.  As a taxpayer am I glad I&#039;m getting to watch my government break down at the same time I watch my investments take a turn for the worse?  No.  As a taxpayer am I glad that I&#039;ll also get to watch my dollar become less as the inevitable inflation is sure to follow any bail out plan that finally gets accepted?   No.

Now, if McCain&#039;s got the fix-all cure believe me I&#039;m all for it.  And should he have such an idea he should be in front of a microphone right now explaining to the country how it&#039;s going to work...  should that happen you better believe I&#039;ll change my tune completely.

But that hasn&#039;t happened yet..  so without further ado I&#039;ll leave it to JR to finish the latter portion of the explanation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a difference between being confident in an opinion and being so bull-headed as to not be swayed by information&#8230;  I&#8217;ll speak to being confident in an opinion JR, I&#8217;ll let you handle the latter.</p>
<p>McCain&#8217;s contribution to the meeting at the White House was virtually nil, and that&#8217;s according to the Republicans who were present.</p>
<p>Am I glad McCain has injected Presidential politics into the financial disaster for his own personal gain (as we saw him attempt to do today)?  No, why would anyone be?  Why are you?</p>
<p>Did McCain really have anything to add?  Did Economics suddenly become his strong suit?  Of course not.</p>
<p>If McCain had made the economy the centerpiece of his campaign this would be a completely different matter and I absolutely would have expected his involvement.  </p>
<p>As a taxpayer am I glad McCain wasted his time?  No.  As a taxpayer am I glad I&#8217;m getting to watch my government break down at the same time I watch my investments take a turn for the worse?  No.  As a taxpayer am I glad that I&#8217;ll also get to watch my dollar become less as the inevitable inflation is sure to follow any bail out plan that finally gets accepted?   No.</p>
<p>Now, if McCain&#8217;s got the fix-all cure believe me I&#8217;m all for it.  And should he have such an idea he should be in front of a microphone right now explaining to the country how it&#8217;s going to work&#8230;  should that happen you better believe I&#8217;ll change my tune completely.</p>
<p>But that hasn&#8217;t happened yet..  so without further ado I&#8217;ll leave it to JR to finish the latter portion of the explanation.</p>
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		<title>By: FrenchytheSailor</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2008/09/29/bailout-bombs/#comment-7555</link>
		<dc:creator>FrenchytheSailor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 01:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been sitting here trying to figure out what the heck these guys are all thinking and I think I&#039;ve got.

Treason.

Everyone of these guys in government has sold their souls to Satan.  

Right now they&#039;re in scramble mode, trying to insure their golden parachute while the country goes down in flames.  Not one of these guys is interested in the well being of America as long as they have theirs.

Think about the back door deals that are going on right now.  The international banking industry won&#039;t except any deal that involves increased regulation.  And as the control of those banks is falling in to fewer and fewer hands, that small minority is welding more and more power.

And who ever these people are, they&#039;re going to ride out any economic storm and pick the bones of the fallen like the bottom feeders they are.  

Start stocking up your survival kit.  The End is Here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been sitting here trying to figure out what the heck these guys are all thinking and I think I&#8217;ve got.</p>
<p>Treason.</p>
<p>Everyone of these guys in government has sold their souls to Satan.  </p>
<p>Right now they&#8217;re in scramble mode, trying to insure their golden parachute while the country goes down in flames.  Not one of these guys is interested in the well being of America as long as they have theirs.</p>
<p>Think about the back door deals that are going on right now.  The international banking industry won&#8217;t except any deal that involves increased regulation.  And as the control of those banks is falling in to fewer and fewer hands, that small minority is welding more and more power.</p>
<p>And who ever these people are, they&#8217;re going to ride out any economic storm and pick the bones of the fallen like the bottom feeders they are.  </p>
<p>Start stocking up your survival kit.  The End is Here.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Hinton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy Hinton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 01:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoa, Cantor votes aye and Kucinich votes nay on a bill decried by the conservative base as blatant socialism?

The again, Kucinich did say he&#039;d &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=py8cXlLyX18&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;want Ron Paul as his running mate&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoa, Cantor votes aye and Kucinich votes nay on a bill decried by the conservative base as blatant socialism?</p>
<p>The again, Kucinich did say he&#8217;d <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=py8cXlLyX18" rel="nofollow">want Ron Paul as his running mate</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: DCH</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2008/09/29/bailout-bombs/#comment-7553</link>
		<dc:creator>DCH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 01:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Davis, Wolf and Cantor voted &quot;yes.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Davis, Wolf and Cantor voted &#8220;yes.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Hinton</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2008/09/29/bailout-bombs/#comment-7552</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Hinton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 01:35:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can see trying to score some points off the other side, but it was definitely pretty stupid of Boehner to try and pin the failure on Pelosi&#039;s speech. As others here have said, if that were the case it would mean the the Reps put a partisan reaction above what they had finally thought was the best course for America.  Accusing one&#039;s own party of political brinkmanship with the American economy is idiotic. Being proud of it takes it to a whole new dimension.

Brian, i admit, i kinda felt like a &lt;b&gt;ba dump bump&lt;/b&gt; was expected after that &lt;I&gt;Great Depression&lt;/i&gt; line, or least a little cigar chomping. Of course if Palin said it, she may not have meant it as a joke.

ba dump bump.

Jim, I don&#039;t think it would have sailed through. Without the fig-leaf concessions granted to the Repub Conference (which may not have happened w/out McCain) it may have had even less a chance to pass. If they didn&#039;t vote for it with the minor concessions, they certainly wouldn&#039;t have voted for it w/out them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can see trying to score some points off the other side, but it was definitely pretty stupid of Boehner to try and pin the failure on Pelosi&#8217;s speech. As others here have said, if that were the case it would mean the the Reps put a partisan reaction above what they had finally thought was the best course for America.  Accusing one&#8217;s own party of political brinkmanship with the American economy is idiotic. Being proud of it takes it to a whole new dimension.</p>
<p>Brian, i admit, i kinda felt like a <b>ba dump bump</b> was expected after that <i>Great Depression</i> line, or least a little cigar chomping. Of course if Palin said it, she may not have meant it as a joke.</p>
<p>ba dump bump.</p>
<p>Jim, I don&#8217;t think it would have sailed through. Without the fig-leaf concessions granted to the Repub Conference (which may not have happened w/out McCain) it may have had even less a chance to pass. If they didn&#8217;t vote for it with the minor concessions, they certainly wouldn&#8217;t have voted for it w/out them.</p>
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		<title>By: FrenchytheSailor</title>
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		<dc:creator>FrenchytheSailor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 01:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh come on JR!  

You really believe McCain had any impact?  Not once did I hear him say this bill should go down in flames.  According to him, he went there to rally the troops and save the nation.  

How is a divided GOP and looking like a bunch of self serving incompetents good for America?

I don&#039;t get it.  The GOP has always shown a united front, if McCain had any impact it was to split it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh come on JR!  </p>
<p>You really believe McCain had any impact?  Not once did I hear him say this bill should go down in flames.  According to him, he went there to rally the troops and save the nation.  </p>
<p>How is a divided GOP and looking like a bunch of self serving incompetents good for America?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t get it.  The GOP has always shown a united front, if McCain had any impact it was to split it.</p>
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		<dc:creator>The Write Side of My Brain » Are you better off than you were 8 hours ago?</dc:creator>
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