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	<title>Comments on: Can McCain be a Change Agent?</title>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2008/09/04/can-mccain-be-a-change-agent/#comment-6580</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 14:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Politician bashing.  Though, I&#039;m not even sure that was bashing - don&#039;t you think that anyone who wants to be VP should answer a few questions?  You seemed to when Obama was running for President, was that racism on your part?  Just trying to understand your perverse world view.  

Hmmm, that also means when you were asking the same questions about Hillary, that must have been woman bashing in your eyes.  Interesting.  Not surprising, as it is quite obvious you have no soul or morality when it comes to politics - and obviously no understanding or respect for women.  

Just curious - b/c I know you want to be intellectually honest... was it also Hillary bashing when Karl Rove said exactly the same thing about Hillary?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Politician bashing.  Though, I&#8217;m not even sure that was bashing &#8211; don&#8217;t you think that anyone who wants to be VP should answer a few questions?  You seemed to when Obama was running for President, was that racism on your part?  Just trying to understand your perverse world view.  </p>
<p>Hmmm, that also means when you were asking the same questions about Hillary, that must have been woman bashing in your eyes.  Interesting.  Not surprising, as it is quite obvious you have no soul or morality when it comes to politics &#8211; and obviously no understanding or respect for women.  </p>
<p>Just curious &#8211; b/c I know you want to be intellectually honest&#8230; was it also Hillary bashing when Karl Rove said exactly the same thing about Hillary?</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Kirwin</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2008/09/04/can-mccain-be-a-change-agent/#comment-6578</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Kirwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 05:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe she&#039;ll run and hide like you, Mark.

It&#039;s nice to see your true woman-bashing self in print, though.  We always wondered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe she&#8217;ll run and hide like you, Mark.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s nice to see your true woman-bashing self in print, though.  We always wondered.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2008/09/04/can-mccain-be-a-change-agent/#comment-6576</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 04:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had to respond to my good friend SW referring to me as a &quot;good liberal soldier&quot;.  Which is fine, not accurate, but fine.  

Just to be clear, I voted for W, and his father - and once called myself a Republican.  Just the facts there.  I was always probably a &quot;Reagan Democrat&quot;, but Bush has made it clear that the GOP is no place for this man - who will happily wear the title &quot;good liberal soldier&quot; as I work to get the best man, and BY FAR, the best team elected this fall.

Seriously, Palin?  She doesn&#039;t even have the guts to do any interviews.  It&#039;s getting a bit embarrasing that the &quot;savior&quot; of the GOP doesn&#039;t have the courage to even stand up to the media.  How is she going to do when she has to face Putin down?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had to respond to my good friend SW referring to me as a &#8220;good liberal soldier&#8221;.  Which is fine, not accurate, but fine.  </p>
<p>Just to be clear, I voted for W, and his father &#8211; and once called myself a Republican.  Just the facts there.  I was always probably a &#8220;Reagan Democrat&#8221;, but Bush has made it clear that the GOP is no place for this man &#8211; who will happily wear the title &#8220;good liberal soldier&#8221; as I work to get the best man, and BY FAR, the best team elected this fall.</p>
<p>Seriously, Palin?  She doesn&#8217;t even have the guts to do any interviews.  It&#8217;s getting a bit embarrasing that the &#8220;savior&#8221; of the GOP doesn&#8217;t have the courage to even stand up to the media.  How is she going to do when she has to face Putin down?</p>
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		<title>By: FrenchytheSailor</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2008/09/04/can-mccain-be-a-change-agent/#comment-6571</link>
		<dc:creator>FrenchytheSailor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 17:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent point Scott.  The answer is yes, and no.

No, you don&#039;t bother talking to Osama, you go after him and kill him.  In order to do that you go after and deny him money and logistical support.  In order to do that you need to work with other world leaders.  That takes diplomacy.

After 911 America had the world at our back.  We could have gone to the Swiss, the Cayman Island, the UAE, all those countries that rely on banking and tell them to stop transferring funding to terrorist organizations.  

The UN fully back the invasion on Afghanistan, we could have had Bin Laden with in a year and destroyed his entire organization.  

Instead we devoted all our resources to Iraq for who the hell knows what reason.  Now our complete military infrastructure is in shambles and Russia is about ready to reclaim as much of their old empire as they can because they know we can&#039;t do anything about it (except use the Nuclear threat).

As for the Middle East and Isreal, fuck them. They can clean up their own mess.

Ask the Pentagon what they think is one of the greatest theats to national security and they&#039;re not going to say extreemist with bombs, its our reliance on oil from other countries.

WE ARE AMERICA! 
We could be energy independent within a decade if we were willing to suck it up and make some hard choices.  But the politicos in DC (Right &amp; Left) are completely owned by the energy industries in this country.  Why else would they drop over a $100M into both the DMC and GOP conventions.

So in answer to your last questions ...
How would Obama fair against an attack like 911?  I don&#039;t know.  Do you know how McCain would react? Ofcourse not.  Until people are tested in fire no one can predict how someone else will react.

But no matter who gets elected I hope they do the right thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent point Scott.  The answer is yes, and no.</p>
<p>No, you don&#8217;t bother talking to Osama, you go after him and kill him.  In order to do that you go after and deny him money and logistical support.  In order to do that you need to work with other world leaders.  That takes diplomacy.</p>
<p>After 911 America had the world at our back.  We could have gone to the Swiss, the Cayman Island, the UAE, all those countries that rely on banking and tell them to stop transferring funding to terrorist organizations.  </p>
<p>The UN fully back the invasion on Afghanistan, we could have had Bin Laden with in a year and destroyed his entire organization.  </p>
<p>Instead we devoted all our resources to Iraq for who the hell knows what reason.  Now our complete military infrastructure is in shambles and Russia is about ready to reclaim as much of their old empire as they can because they know we can&#8217;t do anything about it (except use the Nuclear threat).</p>
<p>As for the Middle East and Isreal, fuck them. They can clean up their own mess.</p>
<p>Ask the Pentagon what they think is one of the greatest theats to national security and they&#8217;re not going to say extreemist with bombs, its our reliance on oil from other countries.</p>
<p>WE ARE AMERICA!<br />
We could be energy independent within a decade if we were willing to suck it up and make some hard choices.  But the politicos in DC (Right &amp; Left) are completely owned by the energy industries in this country.  Why else would they drop over a $100M into both the DMC and GOP conventions.</p>
<p>So in answer to your last questions &#8230;<br />
How would Obama fair against an attack like 911?  I don&#8217;t know.  Do you know how McCain would react? Ofcourse not.  Until people are tested in fire no one can predict how someone else will react.</p>
<p>But no matter who gets elected I hope they do the right thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 15:56:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frenchy,

Diplomacy is great, when it works... Do you think sitting down and rationally explaining to Osama Bin Laden that his thoughts towards the United States are not justified would have worked in 2001? Would it have done a thing? This is more of an argument about whether you see the ideas of future deterrence through diplomacy as robust ideas or not. It has not worked to this point in the Middle East, why is it going to work now?

We are not necessarily fighting forces that have the said backing of their government, and the idea of deterrence through diplomacy is not necessarily an option to someone who would rather blow their person up in a public setting to prove their point. Like it or not, we support a strong Israel, add it to the laundry list of problems that we have against us in each of those countries.

I am not a hawk, and like you the last thing I want to see is another extended conflict with our boys and girls. Yet, is there an answer to these groups besides a strong fist? 

How would Barack Obama fair against an attack like September 11? 

Would he talk it out with Al Qaeda?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frenchy,</p>
<p>Diplomacy is great, when it works&#8230; Do you think sitting down and rationally explaining to Osama Bin Laden that his thoughts towards the United States are not justified would have worked in 2001? Would it have done a thing? This is more of an argument about whether you see the ideas of future deterrence through diplomacy as robust ideas or not. It has not worked to this point in the Middle East, why is it going to work now?</p>
<p>We are not necessarily fighting forces that have the said backing of their government, and the idea of deterrence through diplomacy is not necessarily an option to someone who would rather blow their person up in a public setting to prove their point. Like it or not, we support a strong Israel, add it to the laundry list of problems that we have against us in each of those countries.</p>
<p>I am not a hawk, and like you the last thing I want to see is another extended conflict with our boys and girls. Yet, is there an answer to these groups besides a strong fist? </p>
<p>How would Barack Obama fair against an attack like September 11? </p>
<p>Would he talk it out with Al Qaeda?</p>
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		<title>By: FrenchytheSailor</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2008/09/04/can-mccain-be-a-change-agent/#comment-6564</link>
		<dc:creator>FrenchytheSailor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 14:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott,

No, I admit I don&#039;t know the inner workings of the McCain staff.  But I do know how the Seal public affairs and command staff operate when it comes to public appearances.  I also know that it&#039;s not handled at the lowest level.  Those Seals didn&#039;t attend the GOP convention with out Flag approval.  And those Admirals didn&#039;t agree to it until they were assured that their Special Forces operators would not be used on national television for political purposes.  The DoD got those assurances from someone high up in the GOP.
And please don&#039;t tell me that every word and camera angle of the entire convention wasn&#039;t scripted and reviewed by key members of McCains staff.  I think we all know better, the GOP are masters at speaking with one voice (and I do mean that as a compliment).
As to McCain&#039;s ablitity to lead as Commander in Chief....
I respect John McCain for his service to our country. But having done four deployments in the Middle East (I got back from Iraq six weeks ago) I personally think Iraq was a massive mistake, which McCain supported and still supports as a good idea.
Do I want another boss like the outgoing one?  Hell no.  Do I want another CO who thinks diplomacy is for pussies?  Hell no.
I rather see the President talk someone to death before commiting my brothers and sisters to combat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott,</p>
<p>No, I admit I don&#8217;t know the inner workings of the McCain staff.  But I do know how the Seal public affairs and command staff operate when it comes to public appearances.  I also know that it&#8217;s not handled at the lowest level.  Those Seals didn&#8217;t attend the GOP convention with out Flag approval.  And those Admirals didn&#8217;t agree to it until they were assured that their Special Forces operators would not be used on national television for political purposes.  The DoD got those assurances from someone high up in the GOP.<br />
And please don&#8217;t tell me that every word and camera angle of the entire convention wasn&#8217;t scripted and reviewed by key members of McCains staff.  I think we all know better, the GOP are masters at speaking with one voice (and I do mean that as a compliment).<br />
As to McCain&#8217;s ablitity to lead as Commander in Chief&#8230;.<br />
I respect John McCain for his service to our country. But having done four deployments in the Middle East (I got back from Iraq six weeks ago) I personally think Iraq was a massive mistake, which McCain supported and still supports as a good idea.<br />
Do I want another boss like the outgoing one?  Hell no.  Do I want another CO who thinks diplomacy is for pussies?  Hell no.<br />
I rather see the President talk someone to death before commiting my brothers and sisters to combat.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2008/09/04/can-mccain-be-a-change-agent/#comment-6554</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 03:52:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frenchy,

I agree that the Navy SEALs should not have been publicly involved in politics, but if you claim your credibility on the matter stems from being a military journalist, you might want to confer with your editor.

You insinuate that somehow John McCain had planned this because his &quot;advisors all thought it was a great f*%king idea!&quot; You also question his commitment to our troops, &quot;I guess you don’t care much for the men and women who are on the front lines.&quot; I will only deal with these two issues.

First, there is not one iota of proof to show that McCain knew about this whatsoever. How you can make that connection is beyond reason. If you know the inner-workings of the McCain campaign, please enlighten us.

Second, John McCain has consistently supported our troops; Through his words and his actions. This does not even bring into account how he faithfully served in our armed forces. He KNOWS the peril that our young men and women are facing on a daily basis. 

If McCain does not care about our troops with his service record, I can only imagine how his opponent&#039;s service at Harvard Law School and the Illinois State Senate prepared him to deal with our armed forces.

Take a step back and don&#039;t get &quot;frakin pissed off&quot; about the issue, try to understand it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frenchy,</p>
<p>I agree that the Navy SEALs should not have been publicly involved in politics, but if you claim your credibility on the matter stems from being a military journalist, you might want to confer with your editor.</p>
<p>You insinuate that somehow John McCain had planned this because his &#8220;advisors all thought it was a great f*%king idea!&#8221; You also question his commitment to our troops, &#8220;I guess you don’t care much for the men and women who are on the front lines.&#8221; I will only deal with these two issues.</p>
<p>First, there is not one iota of proof to show that McCain knew about this whatsoever. How you can make that connection is beyond reason. If you know the inner-workings of the McCain campaign, please enlighten us.</p>
<p>Second, John McCain has consistently supported our troops; Through his words and his actions. This does not even bring into account how he faithfully served in our armed forces. He KNOWS the peril that our young men and women are facing on a daily basis. </p>
<p>If McCain does not care about our troops with his service record, I can only imagine how his opponent&#8217;s service at Harvard Law School and the Illinois State Senate prepared him to deal with our armed forces.</p>
<p>Take a step back and don&#8217;t get &#8220;frakin pissed off&#8221; about the issue, try to understand it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2008/09/04/can-mccain-be-a-change-agent/#comment-6552</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 03:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Swindle should resign or be fired.</description>
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		<title>By: FrenchytheSailor</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2008/09/04/can-mccain-be-a-change-agent/#comment-6548</link>
		<dc:creator>FrenchytheSailor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 02:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Incase you haven&#039;t guessed I&#039;m pretty fraking pissed off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Incase you haven&#8217;t guessed I&#8217;m pretty fraking pissed off.</p>
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		<title>By: FrenchytheSailor</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2008/09/04/can-mccain-be-a-change-agent/#comment-6547</link>
		<dc:creator>FrenchytheSailor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 02:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And somehow I&#039;m sure McCain&#039;s advisors all thought it was a great f*%king idea!

If that&#039;s who you think would make a great Commander in Chief then I guess you don&#039;t care much for the men and women who are on the front lines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And somehow I&#8217;m sure McCain&#8217;s advisors all thought it was a great f*%king idea!</p>
<p>If that&#8217;s who you think would make a great Commander in Chief then I guess you don&#8217;t care much for the men and women who are on the front lines.</p>
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		<title>By: FrenchytheSailor</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2008/09/04/can-mccain-be-a-change-agent/#comment-6546</link>
		<dc:creator>FrenchytheSailor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 02:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been a military journalist for 15 years.  I don&#039;t remember how many times I&#039;ve worked with the Seals and not once have I published a photo or given a name of a Navy SEAL at their request.

Their are bounties on their heads!

And after promising not to recognizing them while escorting the sister of one of their blood brothers who died defending our country to the GOP convention, this is their thanks.

But as long as it promotes The Party I guess it&#039;s justifiable.  I hope Orson Swindle enjoys his stay in Hell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been a military journalist for 15 years.  I don&#8217;t remember how many times I&#8217;ve worked with the Seals and not once have I published a photo or given a name of a Navy SEAL at their request.</p>
<p>Their are bounties on their heads!</p>
<p>And after promising not to recognizing them while escorting the sister of one of their blood brothers who died defending our country to the GOP convention, this is their thanks.</p>
<p>But as long as it promotes The Party I guess it&#8217;s justifiable.  I hope Orson Swindle enjoys his stay in Hell.</p>
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		<title>By: FrenchytheSailor</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2008/09/04/can-mccain-be-a-change-agent/#comment-6544</link>
		<dc:creator>FrenchytheSailor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 01:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;From the Navy Times.&quot;

A Republican speaker broke a deal between the GOP and the Navy when he publicly recognized a pair of Navy special operators at the Republican National Convention on Wednesday, a Navy spokesman said, causing the sailors to violate regulations against active-duty service members participating in politics.

The speaker, Orson Swindle, pointed out two Navy SEALs in the audience wearing civilian clothes at the convention in St. Paul, Minn., as part of a salute to the fallen SEAL Master at Arms 2nd Class Michael Monsoor, who was posthumously awarded the Medal of Honor in April. The two SEALs, Lt. Leif Babin and Special Warfare Operator 1st Class Tom Deshazo, rose when Swindle pointed them out and asked them to stand.

But the Republicans had agreed not to identify the special operators as a condition for their being able to attend the convention, 

http://www.navytimes.com/news/2008/09/navy_gop_seals_090408w/

Yea, the GOP only has the best interest of the country at heart.... as long as it serves their purpose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;From the Navy Times.&#8221;</p>
<p>A Republican speaker broke a deal between the GOP and the Navy when he publicly recognized a pair of Navy special operators at the Republican National Convention on Wednesday, a Navy spokesman said, causing the sailors to violate regulations against active-duty service members participating in politics.</p>
<p>The speaker, Orson Swindle, pointed out two Navy SEALs in the audience wearing civilian clothes at the convention in St. Paul, Minn., as part of a salute to the fallen SEAL Master at Arms 2nd Class Michael Monsoor, who was posthumously awarded the Medal of Honor in April. The two SEALs, Lt. Leif Babin and Special Warfare Operator 1st Class Tom Deshazo, rose when Swindle pointed them out and asked them to stand.</p>
<p>But the Republicans had agreed not to identify the special operators as a condition for their being able to attend the convention, </p>
<p><a href="http://www.navytimes.com/news/2008/09/navy_gop_seals_090408w/" rel="nofollow">http://www.navytimes.com/news/2008/09/navy_gop_seals_090408w/</a></p>
<p>Yea, the GOP only has the best interest of the country at heart&#8230;. as long as it serves their purpose.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2008/09/04/can-mccain-be-a-change-agent/#comment-6532</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 20:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard a real funny one today on the radio.  Apparently, McCain said he would support a constitutional amendment banning abortion.  Obama, of course, would not support such an amendment.

Thus, if you oppose such an amendment, you should vote for McCain!  Why?  Because as a Senator, he could vote for such an amendment, but as President, he cannot!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard a real funny one today on the radio.  Apparently, McCain said he would support a constitutional amendment banning abortion.  Obama, of course, would not support such an amendment.</p>
<p>Thus, if you oppose such an amendment, you should vote for McCain!  Why?  Because as a Senator, he could vote for such an amendment, but as President, he cannot!!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Hinton</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2008/09/04/can-mccain-be-a-change-agent/#comment-6531</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Hinton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 19:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another Voice said:

&lt;blockquote&gt;John McCain has voted against many bills, even those he authored, because of the pork and convolution added to them by others! I have no doubt he will fulfill his promise to veto all pork laden bills as President no matter what the title subject.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

How many of those failed by 1 vote, making his principled stand the cause for failure? As for me, I have no doubt that pork will quite happily live on in a McCain administration, when his principles  can actually have an impact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another Voice said:</p>
<blockquote><p>John McCain has voted against many bills, even those he authored, because of the pork and convolution added to them by others! I have no doubt he will fulfill his promise to veto all pork laden bills as President no matter what the title subject.</p></blockquote>
<p>How many of those failed by 1 vote, making his principled stand the cause for failure? As for me, I have no doubt that pork will quite happily live on in a McCain administration, when his principles  can actually have an impact.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Hinton</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2008/09/04/can-mccain-be-a-change-agent/#comment-6529</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Hinton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 19:37:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two good examples Jack.

The AIPAC flip was pandering, pure and simple, and Obama got caught doing it.

As for the FISA bill, overall I see it more as Obama recognizing the need to compromise with the Republicans and get something done (a good thing). However, it was foolish of him to vow to filibuster against the telecom immunity provision, he should know better. For someone skilled at the give and take needed to get things done, to take such a major point of contention off the table (especially since it made zero difference in policy going forwards) was a bad move.

However, these don&#039;t reflect nearly the dramatic shift that McCain has made in the last year. As David Axelrod said - 

&lt;blockquote&gt;St. Paul underwent a conversion on the road to Damascus and John McCain underwent a conversion on the road to St. Paul.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two good examples Jack.</p>
<p>The AIPAC flip was pandering, pure and simple, and Obama got caught doing it.</p>
<p>As for the FISA bill, overall I see it more as Obama recognizing the need to compromise with the Republicans and get something done (a good thing). However, it was foolish of him to vow to filibuster against the telecom immunity provision, he should know better. For someone skilled at the give and take needed to get things done, to take such a major point of contention off the table (especially since it made zero difference in policy going forwards) was a bad move.</p>
<p>However, these don&#8217;t reflect nearly the dramatic shift that McCain has made in the last year. As David Axelrod said &#8211; </p>
<blockquote><p>St. Paul underwent a conversion on the road to Damascus and John McCain underwent a conversion on the road to St. Paul.</p></blockquote>
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