Glenn Nye: Hypocrite for cash
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Published July 16th, 2008
Will Glenn Nye practice what he preaches? Will he give back the $4,000 give to him by Rep. Charlie Rangel, who admitted he violated House ethics rules in fundraising?
Nye urged Rep. Thelma Drake to cancel her fundraiser featuring Karl Rove, but he was pocketing money from Rangel, the ethically-challenged New Yorker.
“If Glenn Nye has a shred of integrity, he’ll hold himself to his own standard and return the $4,000 that Rangel donated to his campaign,” said Drake’s campaign manager.
Bearing Drift will even offer to pay for the stamp!
If all Rove was guilty of was breaking fundraising rules, you might have a case for hypocrisy. Being that this is not the case, I’m thinking you can keep your stamp.
What’s Rove guilty of?
Bad dancing.
Lets see, Karl Rove is guilty of leaking the name of an undercover CIA agent - a federal offense and directing politically-based prosecutions of democratic candidates for office - another crime…
That said, if Nye received money from an illegal source he should rise above the low ethical standards set by the GOP and return it.
Get over it. Rove wasn’t even indicted.
Don’t forget that it is Karl Rove who is credited with deceiving the media and American public in the lead up to the War in Iraq.
Shameless
It always cracks me up the way the American left creates these bogey men for themselves.
AAAAAH! Karl Rove is coming to town! Run for your lives!
If Drake were at all concerned with the reaction of normal people (i.e., non-wacko non-lefties), I doubt she would post the announcement of the fundraiser on her website.
Accept it Karl Rove is a nutjob and a criminal. What is sad is how quickly the right is ready to sacifice any claim to the moral and ethical high-ground by defending a shameless criminal.
PS - Rove hasn’t been indicted YET.
So then, it is ok for Nye to keep the dirty money from Rangel?
Amazing how that is never answered.
SW - Most Ohioans are literate (OSU grads excepted…) right? Here’s what I wrote:
“if Nye received money from an illegal source he should rise above the low ethical standards set by the GOP and return it.”
That’s rich.
Let’s see- Rove is hosting a fundraiser that will probably raise 100k and Rangel gave 4k. He’s not hosting it in DC- he’s coming in town for this reason only.
We are talking apples and hamsters here- no comparison.
You guys are losing me- and probably many voters like myself. She’s out of touch and more DC than VB.
Ragnar’s justice system: Innocent until Ragnar says you’re guilty.
Greeeeaaat!
That’s right.
Let’s crucify someone who hasn’t:
1) Been accused or indicted of anything
2) Even if or, for your ultra-libs “when”, he is, that’s “innocent until proven guilty.”
Whereas former President Clinton was impeached and still goes around raising all sorts of money for Democrats.
Now that’s hypocrisy.
Parrothead — I’ve read your comments here. Don’t get all preachy on us. You’re no Drake supporter, so don’t pretend like “you’ve been lost.”
You were never going to vote for Drake, so don’t pretend like you might or were. It’s tiresome.
JR. I have voted for Drake before (2 years ago) and considered it this election.
I don’t believe in sending anyone back just because they won once and unlike a lot of the electorate I research my options.
I have no horse in any race- I love politics but neither party “speaks” to me. So- I sometimes vote GOP, sometimes vote Democrat. Like my Father before me, I vote for the “person”, not the party.
I can’t justify the Karl Rove fundraiser. Too many people are struggling in the 2nd CD and I don’t see what Drake has done for working families like mine.
No one here is giving me one reason to support her- just partisan rhetoric.
I’m not a Drake supporter or a Nye supporter. But the more I keep seeing the more I keep thinking that I may split my ticket in Novemember and give Nye a chance.
Well, Dad told me the same thing regarding voting for the person.
I love ya’ parrothead, you always make points that make me think.
We’re all kinda wondering whether this Rove fundraiser might be more trouble than it’s worth.
I love Thelma, but, honestly, I might chalk up one to bad judgment on her part.
But unlike some, I’m giving her a mulligan.
Jim -
Are you really arguing that the GOP-partisan based impeachment of Clinton was any kind of yardstick? All impeachment of Clinton demonstrated was that the GOP would place politics and hatred of the Democrats above love of country. It was a sad display and nothing you or any American should be proud of.
If the roles were reversed and Bush was a Dem, and the same GOP members were in the House, they would have impeached Bush as well. It is only b/c we have a House leader who places nation above party that no such action has been taken.
Yes, JR. Nancy Pelosi is bipartisan. You didn’t know that? Ragnar said so.
If Pelosi thought she had the votes, she would let it go forward. She doesn’t have the votes and she knows it.
So, Ragnar, despite the impeachment, the money Bill raises is o.k., as long as it’s for Democrats. But someone who hasn’t even been accused of anything by the government, it ain’t o.k. to fund-raise with him.
Roger. I get it.
Jim - I’m no fan of Clinton, as you should know. That was the major reason I voted for Bush in 1999, I wanted an end to what I saw as the corruption of the Clinton years, I just didn’t realize how bad the corruption could get…
What you also seem to be missing is that Clinton was not impeached. It is akin to someone being charged with a crime and being found not guilty. A charge is not a conviction.
Chase - Pelosi made it clear from the beginning that she would not even entertain impeachment proceedings. Of course this may be as much b/c no one wants Cheney to be President as any other reason.
Finally to all - I read what Rangel is accused of doing, he used House stationary to raise money for a school named for him, which is dedicated to educating the poor. Wow, what a horrible crime. It’s almost the same as outing a U.S. Government agent.
Moreover, he is planning on filing ethics charges against himself in order to be exonerated. Y’all need to get a life if this is the best “scandal” you can find.
Clinton was impeached.
The Senate did not convict.
With Clinton, Ragnar says “a charge is not a conviction” but says “Karl Rove is guilty” though Rove has never even been charged.
Anyone else laughing at Ragnar’s blatant partisan-laced hypocrisy….it’s outweighing Nye’s now.
Thankfully I have a super-partisan hypocrite like BK to explain to me when I’m being partisan.
Chase - Clinton wasn’t impeached. Articles of Impeachment were forwarded to the Senate. Go read the Constituion, or heck I bet Wikipedia can explain the impeachment process.
Actually, Ragnar, once the articles of impeachment are forwarded to the Senate, that constitutes (like the fact I used that word :-)) impeachment.
The Senate decides whether or not to remove the offending party from office.
So, indeed, Bill Clinton was impeached.
[...] is exactly what Brian Kirwin called Nye here on Bearing Drift [...]
Jim you are right, I was wrong, Clinton was impeached:
The Constitution, Article II, Section 4:
The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.
The Constitution, Article I, Section 3:
The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present.
Judgment in Cases of Impeachments shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust, or Profit under the United States, but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment, and Punishmnet, according to Law.
Your apology is forthcoming, I presume.
I still don’t see what part of perjury to a grand jury and being disbarred constitutes (what a great word!) a partisan witch hunt.
Chase…don’t hold your breath.