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	<title>Comments on: School is worth quitting</title>
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		<title>By: Stephen Gunter</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2008/05/11/school-is-worth-quitting/#comment-2137</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Gunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 21:09:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just think that if the student is barely pulling through in his classes, then he must need more time to study.  I mean, it is his job as a kid.  If he can&#039;t even handle that, why would anyone want to reward them with being able to play sports?  We are after all supposed to be funding his education, not his sports activities with our tax dollars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just think that if the student is barely pulling through in his classes, then he must need more time to study.  I mean, it is his job as a kid.  If he can&#8217;t even handle that, why would anyone want to reward them with being able to play sports?  We are after all supposed to be funding his education, not his sports activities with our tax dollars.</p>
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		<title>By: Duck</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2008/05/11/school-is-worth-quitting/#comment-2121</link>
		<dc:creator>Duck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 16:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having actually played sports in high school and college, I can tell you that my teammates did not feel motivated to do well academically because the rest of us were.  Those academically marginal athletes wanted to play, so they found a way--not always honest ways--to improve their grades, and once they met the minimal standard they stopped.

Does the Pilot know that athletes sometimes do better than regular students because it takes a team to get all the science work done?  Teammates aren&#039;t motivating each other to do better, they are often cheating to help each other do better!

I agree, a D may be enough to graduate, but we should expect better grades from athletes, and expecting an athlete to have an average grade--isn&#039;t that what a C is?--is not expecting too much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having actually played sports in high school and college, I can tell you that my teammates did not feel motivated to do well academically because the rest of us were.  Those academically marginal athletes wanted to play, so they found a way&#8211;not always honest ways&#8211;to improve their grades, and once they met the minimal standard they stopped.</p>
<p>Does the Pilot know that athletes sometimes do better than regular students because it takes a team to get all the science work done?  Teammates aren&#8217;t motivating each other to do better, they are often cheating to help each other do better!</p>
<p>I agree, a D may be enough to graduate, but we should expect better grades from athletes, and expecting an athlete to have an average grade&#8211;isn&#8217;t that what a C is?&#8211;is not expecting too much.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Kirwin</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2008/05/11/school-is-worth-quitting/#comment-2116</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Kirwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 13:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, great point!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, great point!</p>
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		<title>By: John B. Harvie</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2008/05/11/school-is-worth-quitting/#comment-2115</link>
		<dc:creator>John B. Harvie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 13:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I sense is largely overlooked in this discussion/editorial is that &quot;students&quot; (I&#039;d still use the non-politically correct pejorative &quot;pupils&quot; for the D graded ones) aren&#039;t getting the foundation needed for intermediate and high school in grades K – 6. They are pushed ahead whether deservedly so or not.  By high school age it’s a bit late in the game. We know of a learning disadvantaged child who repeated a lower Elementary grade and now is making honors in Intermediate. There’s no stigma if handled with grace and compassion to the child.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I sense is largely overlooked in this discussion/editorial is that &#8220;students&#8221; (I&#8217;d still use the non-politically correct pejorative &#8220;pupils&#8221; for the D graded ones) aren&#8217;t getting the foundation needed for intermediate and high school in grades K – 6. They are pushed ahead whether deservedly so or not.  By high school age it’s a bit late in the game. We know of a learning disadvantaged child who repeated a lower Elementary grade and now is making honors in Intermediate. There’s no stigma if handled with grace and compassion to the child.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Kirwin</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2008/05/11/school-is-worth-quitting/#comment-2108</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Kirwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 08:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Punish people?  Extra-curricular activities aren&#039;t a right.  They are a privilege. You can graduate with a D.  But if you won&#039;t spend the time with your studies to get a C, you don&#039;t need to be at practice multiple times a week.

Education is about the classroom, remember?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Punish people?  Extra-curricular activities aren&#8217;t a right.  They are a privilege. You can graduate with a D.  But if you won&#8217;t spend the time with your studies to get a C, you don&#8217;t need to be at practice multiple times a week.</p>
<p>Education is about the classroom, remember?</p>
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		<title>By: LittleDavid</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2008/05/11/school-is-worth-quitting/#comment-2107</link>
		<dc:creator>LittleDavid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 06:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t be pleased with a D average (at least not from my kids), but why should a kid be denied sports when he is passing?

Or are you going to say we should punish people for meeting minimum standards?  Ooops, that IS what you have been saying isn&#039;t it?  Why then even have minimum standards if we are going to punish kids for meeting them?  If the minimum standards are not good enough, then raise the minimum standards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t be pleased with a D average (at least not from my kids), but why should a kid be denied sports when he is passing?</p>
<p>Or are you going to say we should punish people for meeting minimum standards?  Ooops, that IS what you have been saying isn&#8217;t it?  Why then even have minimum standards if we are going to punish kids for meeting them?  If the minimum standards are not good enough, then raise the minimum standards.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Kirwin</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2008/05/11/school-is-worth-quitting/#comment-2101</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Kirwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 02:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If everyone is pleased with a D average, everyone has serious problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If everyone is pleased with a D average, everyone has serious problems.</p>
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		<title>By: LittleDavid</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2008/05/11/school-is-worth-quitting/#comment-2098</link>
		<dc:creator>LittleDavid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 01:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From what I read, Norfolk is proposing that students might be able to participate in sports as long as they maintain a D average through their Freshman year.

I am not in favor of &quot;lowering standards&quot; but a D is a passing grade.  As long as the kid is passing, why shouldn&#039;t he/she be allowed to play sports?  Perhaps this is complicated by the fact that most students with a D average are failing at least a couple classes and not progressing towards graduation. However as long as the student is progressing towards graduation, and at the end can pass the Standards of Learning test  to earn his Diploma (even by the skin of his teeth) I see nothing wrong with him/her participating in athletics while in school.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From what I read, Norfolk is proposing that students might be able to participate in sports as long as they maintain a D average through their Freshman year.</p>
<p>I am not in favor of &#8220;lowering standards&#8221; but a D is a passing grade.  As long as the kid is passing, why shouldn&#8217;t he/she be allowed to play sports?  Perhaps this is complicated by the fact that most students with a D average are failing at least a couple classes and not progressing towards graduation. However as long as the student is progressing towards graduation, and at the end can pass the Standards of Learning test  to earn his Diploma (even by the skin of his teeth) I see nothing wrong with him/her participating in athletics while in school.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Gunter</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2008/05/11/school-is-worth-quitting/#comment-2091</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Gunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 20:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree Brian.  Most kids now days just don&#039;t see the point of a high school education.  I didn&#039;t when I went to school, and I can&#039;t see why it would be much different with kids now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree Brian.  Most kids now days just don&#8217;t see the point of a high school education.  I didn&#8217;t when I went to school, and I can&#8217;t see why it would be much different with kids now.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Jordan</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2008/05/11/school-is-worth-quitting/#comment-2087</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Jordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 18:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everything does not have a political hue, Brian.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everything does not have a political hue, Brian.</p>
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