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		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2008/04/16/supreme-court-lethal-injections-ok/#comment-19119</link>
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		<title>By: Ragnar</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2008/04/16/supreme-court-lethal-injections-ok/#comment-1166</link>
		<dc:creator>Ragnar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 01:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not what I want, it&#039;s what is appropriate under the law.  That&#039;s the issue, respect for the law.

Frankly, my thoughts on abortion really aren&#039;t that different from those on capitol punishment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not what I want, it&#8217;s what is appropriate under the law.  That&#8217;s the issue, respect for the law.</p>
<p>Frankly, my thoughts on abortion really aren&#8217;t that different from those on capitol punishment.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Kirwin</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2008/04/16/supreme-court-lethal-injections-ok/#comment-1156</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Kirwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 20:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ragnar, you don&#039;t have a case-by-case analysis.  You have an issue-by-issue analysis.  If you agree with the issue (abortion) you don&#039;t want a moratorium. If you disagree with it (capital punishment), it&#039;s moratoriums galoriums!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ragnar, you don&#8217;t have a case-by-case analysis.  You have an issue-by-issue analysis.  If you agree with the issue (abortion) you don&#8217;t want a moratorium. If you disagree with it (capital punishment), it&#8217;s moratoriums galoriums!</p>
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		<title>By: ragnar</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2008/04/16/supreme-court-lethal-injections-ok/#comment-1154</link>
		<dc:creator>ragnar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 20:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Different operation of the law.  It&#039;s a case-by-case analysis.  It was profound to anyone on death row, or anyone awaiting justice for their loved ones...  

(PS - I&#039;m not defending the criminals, you seem to think I am.  I&#039;m not.  I happen to disagree with the death penalty as a Christian on principle, but we are a federal society and where it is legal, it is legal.  The law is the law).  

Ok, Regent.  If there is one thing I will never claim it is the ability to spell.  I&#039;m just fortuante to a) have spell-checker and b) have a wonderful (and published) fiance who can edit...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Different operation of the law.  It&#8217;s a case-by-case analysis.  It was profound to anyone on death row, or anyone awaiting justice for their loved ones&#8230;  </p>
<p>(PS &#8211; I&#8217;m not defending the criminals, you seem to think I am.  I&#8217;m not.  I happen to disagree with the death penalty as a Christian on principle, but we are a federal society and where it is legal, it is legal.  The law is the law).  </p>
<p>Ok, Regent.  If there is one thing I will never claim it is the ability to spell.  I&#8217;m just fortuante to a) have spell-checker and b) have a wonderful (and published) fiance who can edit&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Kirwin</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2008/04/16/supreme-court-lethal-injections-ok/#comment-1145</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Kirwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just chuckle at how you don&#039;t even know how to spell Regent.

So this was &quot;The most profound hiatus&quot; huh?  Talk about hype....or more like wishful thinking.

The result was as I said it would be.  No change.  A bunch of moratoriums that accomplished nothing but giving more days of life to people who wouldn&#039;t have given their victims the same courtesy.

I&#039;m still wondering while people are still allowed to buy handguns, since the Supreme Court is reviewing a case on the Second Amendment as we speak now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just chuckle at how you don&#8217;t even know how to spell Regent.</p>
<p>So this was &#8220;The most profound hiatus&#8221; huh?  Talk about hype&#8230;.or more like wishful thinking.</p>
<p>The result was as I said it would be.  No change.  A bunch of moratoriums that accomplished nothing but giving more days of life to people who wouldn&#8217;t have given their victims the same courtesy.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m still wondering while people are still allowed to buy handguns, since the Supreme Court is reviewing a case on the Second Amendment as we speak now.</p>
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		<title>By: ragnar</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2008/04/16/supreme-court-lethal-injections-ok/#comment-1144</link>
		<dc:creator>ragnar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 13:45:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I am learning from the master of prepubescent debating skills.  Too funny.  

On Regeant, actually I wasn&#039;t connecting you to Pat Robertson (unless you support Mr. &quot;9/11 was God&#039;s punishment&quot;?).  Rather I was comparing your poor understanding of the workings of the law to Regeant, that terrible bottom of the 4th tier law school in Hampton Roads.  Certain events over the last 7 years have made it obvious that many graduates of that institution don&#039;t know the law and may never have seen the Constitution.

PS - to anyone who has an interest in understanding why BK was wrong from the begining, below is an  article from last fall explaining why most (every?) states, including Virginia would declare a moritorium on executions following the Supreme Court&#039;s decision to take the lethal injection case.  (I won&#039;t hold my breath for BK&#039;s apology...).

From the article:

&quot;I think this is a de facto moratorium,&quot; said Douglas A. Berman, a sentencing expert at Ohio State University&#039;s law school [SW should be proud, I&#039;m referencing THAT school].  Since almost all executions are carried out by lethal injection, he said a halt &quot;would mean the most profound hiatus in the operation of the death penalty in at least two decades.&quot; 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/17/AR2007101701870.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I am learning from the master of prepubescent debating skills.  Too funny.  </p>
<p>On Regeant, actually I wasn&#8217;t connecting you to Pat Robertson (unless you support Mr. &#8220;9/11 was God&#8217;s punishment&#8221;?).  Rather I was comparing your poor understanding of the workings of the law to Regeant, that terrible bottom of the 4th tier law school in Hampton Roads.  Certain events over the last 7 years have made it obvious that many graduates of that institution don&#8217;t know the law and may never have seen the Constitution.</p>
<p>PS &#8211; to anyone who has an interest in understanding why BK was wrong from the begining, below is an  article from last fall explaining why most (every?) states, including Virginia would declare a moritorium on executions following the Supreme Court&#8217;s decision to take the lethal injection case.  (I won&#8217;t hold my breath for BK&#8217;s apology&#8230;).</p>
<p>From the article:</p>
<p>&#8220;I think this is a de facto moratorium,&#8221; said Douglas A. Berman, a sentencing expert at Ohio State University&#8217;s law school [SW should be proud, I'm referencing THAT school].  Since almost all executions are carried out by lethal injection, he said a halt &#8220;would mean the most profound hiatus in the operation of the death penalty in at least two decades.&#8221; </p>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/17/AR2007101701870.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/17/AR2007101701870.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Brian Kirwin</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2008/04/16/supreme-court-lethal-injections-ok/#comment-1140</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Kirwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 10:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love it.  Your last comment has one sentence insulting me and then one sentence laughing about insulting me.

If you think your pre-schoolish debating skills make me angry, boy are you on the wrong track.  Ohh...connect me with Pat Robertson!   I&#039;m quaking in these boots.

But i&#039;ll no longer ask if you&#039;ll no longer tell.  You should be used to that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love it.  Your last comment has one sentence insulting me and then one sentence laughing about insulting me.</p>
<p>If you think your pre-schoolish debating skills make me angry, boy are you on the wrong track.  Ohh&#8230;connect me with Pat Robertson!   I&#8217;m quaking in these boots.</p>
<p>But i&#8217;ll no longer ask if you&#8217;ll no longer tell.  You should be used to that.</p>
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		<title>By: Ragnar</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2008/04/16/supreme-court-lethal-injections-ok/#comment-1135</link>
		<dc:creator>Ragnar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 04:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With the kind of legal reasoning you offer you&#039;ll make a fine addition to the student body at Regeant...  or perhaps to the Bush Justice Department... (eyes roll).  

Seriously, why so angry?  Although, I do always get a laugh when you get all preturbed and angry over me &quot;making everything about you&quot; - too funny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With the kind of legal reasoning you offer you&#8217;ll make a fine addition to the student body at Regeant&#8230;  or perhaps to the Bush Justice Department&#8230; (eyes roll).  </p>
<p>Seriously, why so angry?  Although, I do always get a laugh when you get all preturbed and angry over me &#8220;making everything about you&#8221; &#8211; too funny.</p>
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		<title>By: The Write Side of My Brain » Court upholds lethal injection, Kaine lifts moratorium</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2008/04/16/supreme-court-lethal-injections-ok/#comment-1134</link>
		<dc:creator>The Write Side of My Brain » Court upholds lethal injection, Kaine lifts moratorium</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 03:10:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Brian Kirwin</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2008/04/16/supreme-court-lethal-injections-ok/#comment-1123</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Kirwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 19:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I support the Supreme Court and the rule of law, too.  so WHEN the Supreme Court issues a ruling, THEN we can react to it.  That&#039;s the whole point!

The Supreme Court heard a case this term about whether the Second Amendment allows personal ownership of handguns.  Should they be confiscating everyone&#039;s weapons now while we wait for the ruling?

I&#039;m not angry, although it&#039;s cute how you like to make everything about me.  I seemed to have missed in your frothing whether you voted for Kaine, since you said what he did was the voters&#039; fault.

And I have no bloodlust, my friend.  just think!  In all this time you tried to attribute horrible and vile things to me, you could&#039;ve read the SC opinions and stopped sounding like an idiot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I support the Supreme Court and the rule of law, too.  so WHEN the Supreme Court issues a ruling, THEN we can react to it.  That&#8217;s the whole point!</p>
<p>The Supreme Court heard a case this term about whether the Second Amendment allows personal ownership of handguns.  Should they be confiscating everyone&#8217;s weapons now while we wait for the ruling?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not angry, although it&#8217;s cute how you like to make everything about me.  I seemed to have missed in your frothing whether you voted for Kaine, since you said what he did was the voters&#8217; fault.</p>
<p>And I have no bloodlust, my friend.  just think!  In all this time you tried to attribute horrible and vile things to me, you could&#8217;ve read the SC opinions and stopped sounding like an idiot.</p>
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		<title>By: ragnar</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2008/04/16/supreme-court-lethal-injections-ok/#comment-1122</link>
		<dc:creator>ragnar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 19:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How was I wrong?  All I ever said was that I support the Supreme Court, the Constitution, and the rule of law.  Gov Kaine (and the governors of every other state with the death penatly) stopped executions to await the ruling of the Supremes.  This is normal procedure whenever a point of law is in question.  Why are you so angry at the proper execution of the law?  Once that ruling arrived Gov Kaine did the right thing, he followed it.    

My point about you pushing the justice system off the bridge is that you don&#039;t seem overly concerned with the niceties of our working common law justice system.  This is the way the system works - it might be inefficient, it occasionally frees the guilty (and imprisons the innocent), and it may not feed your bloodlust, but it generally works to reach the right conclusion.

Where is the wrong here?  The law was followed, proof that our system continues to work.  Speaking of too much caffeine, you need to take a deep breath and accept the fact that angerier does not make you righter.  

You really do amuse me with all of your righteous ill-directed indignation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How was I wrong?  All I ever said was that I support the Supreme Court, the Constitution, and the rule of law.  Gov Kaine (and the governors of every other state with the death penatly) stopped executions to await the ruling of the Supremes.  This is normal procedure whenever a point of law is in question.  Why are you so angry at the proper execution of the law?  Once that ruling arrived Gov Kaine did the right thing, he followed it.    </p>
<p>My point about you pushing the justice system off the bridge is that you don&#8217;t seem overly concerned with the niceties of our working common law justice system.  This is the way the system works &#8211; it might be inefficient, it occasionally frees the guilty (and imprisons the innocent), and it may not feed your bloodlust, but it generally works to reach the right conclusion.</p>
<p>Where is the wrong here?  The law was followed, proof that our system continues to work.  Speaking of too much caffeine, you need to take a deep breath and accept the fact that angerier does not make you righter.  </p>
<p>You really do amuse me with all of your righteous ill-directed indignation.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Kirwin</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2008/04/16/supreme-court-lethal-injections-ok/#comment-1121</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Kirwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 18:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;When Democrats promise something that is not in keeping with their platform, don’t believe they’ll stick to the promise for minute. My question is really who is more at fault — the elected official or the people who put them there, believing the hollow promise, in the first place?&quot;

I didn&#039;t vote for him...did you?

&quot;PS - Gov. Kaine did enforce both the death penalty and the law, he did so following the dictates of the Supreme Court and our Constitution, which, as the chief executive of Virginia he is charged with doing.&quot;

Wrong!  The Supreme Court didn&#039;t dictate anything to Kaine.  He CHOSE to issue a moratorium.  The Supreme Court hadn&#039;t issued so much as an opinion until today.  They didn&#039;t issue a stay.  Kaine volunteered.

And when the Court did issue it&#039;s opinion, we were correct and you were wrong - one thing that&#039;s always been consistent on this blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;When Democrats promise something that is not in keeping with their platform, don’t believe they’ll stick to the promise for minute. My question is really who is more at fault — the elected official or the people who put them there, believing the hollow promise, in the first place?&#8221;</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t vote for him&#8230;did you?</p>
<p>&#8220;PS &#8211; Gov. Kaine did enforce both the death penalty and the law, he did so following the dictates of the Supreme Court and our Constitution, which, as the chief executive of Virginia he is charged with doing.&#8221;</p>
<p>Wrong!  The Supreme Court didn&#8217;t dictate anything to Kaine.  He CHOSE to issue a moratorium.  The Supreme Court hadn&#8217;t issued so much as an opinion until today.  They didn&#8217;t issue a stay.  Kaine volunteered.</p>
<p>And when the Court did issue it&#8217;s opinion, we were correct and you were wrong &#8211; one thing that&#8217;s always been consistent on this blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Kirwin</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2008/04/16/supreme-court-lethal-injections-ok/#comment-1120</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Kirwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 18:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ragnar, the only question was what happens if the anesthetic administered prior to lethal injection doesn&#039;t work.

I hardly call that pushing the justice system off the bridge.

Really, cut off your caffeine IV, Ragnar.  Calm down.  Breathe.  Read the opinions.  Relax.  Your brain will re-engage eventually.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ragnar, the only question was what happens if the anesthetic administered prior to lethal injection doesn&#8217;t work.</p>
<p>I hardly call that pushing the justice system off the bridge.</p>
<p>Really, cut off your caffeine IV, Ragnar.  Calm down.  Breathe.  Read the opinions.  Relax.  Your brain will re-engage eventually.</p>
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		<title>By: ragnar</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2008/04/16/supreme-court-lethal-injections-ok/#comment-1119</link>
		<dc:creator>ragnar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 17:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While not speaking in the truest legal sense (after all, slander is oral), defamation of character is the act of making untrue statements about another which damages his/her reputation.

From your previous post:

And when [Democrats] say they will “enforce the death penalty” and “carry out death sentences handed down by Virginia juries because that’s the law” (Kaine campaign ad in 2005), you know that they won’t.

When Democrats promise something that is not in keeping with their platform, don’t believe they’ll stick to the promise for minute. My question is really who is more at fault — the elected official or the people who put them there, believing the hollow promise, in the first place?

PS - Gov. Kaine did enforce both the death penalty and the law, he did so following the dictates of the Supreme Court and our Constitution, which, as the chief executive of Virginia he is charged with doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While not speaking in the truest legal sense (after all, slander is oral), defamation of character is the act of making untrue statements about another which damages his/her reputation.</p>
<p>From your previous post:</p>
<p>And when [Democrats] say they will “enforce the death penalty” and “carry out death sentences handed down by Virginia juries because that’s the law” (Kaine campaign ad in 2005), you know that they won’t.</p>
<p>When Democrats promise something that is not in keeping with their platform, don’t believe they’ll stick to the promise for minute. My question is really who is more at fault — the elected official or the people who put them there, believing the hollow promise, in the first place?</p>
<p>PS &#8211; Gov. Kaine did enforce both the death penalty and the law, he did so following the dictates of the Supreme Court and our Constitution, which, as the chief executive of Virginia he is charged with doing.</p>
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		<title>By: ragnar</title>
		<link>http://bearingdrift.com/2008/04/16/supreme-court-lethal-injections-ok/#comment-1118</link>
		<dc:creator>ragnar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 17:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All states stopped executing b/c there was a question of law regarding the proper application of the death penalty - that is the cost of living in a Constitutional democracy with legal protections.  

Are you a believer in the Constitution, or in mob rule?  The only bridge here is the one you want to push the justice system off of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All states stopped executing b/c there was a question of law regarding the proper application of the death penalty &#8211; that is the cost of living in a Constitutional democracy with legal protections.  </p>
<p>Are you a believer in the Constitution, or in mob rule?  The only bridge here is the one you want to push the justice system off of.</p>
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